S3 EP3: The Price of Fame, Hollywood Secrets, and Finding True Happiness

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Welcome to Jerking Around, a podcast that makes you feel better about yourself, because we're a mess just like you, and Crystal makes fun of me the whole time and it's great and it's real.

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Today, jerking around, jerking around, let's talk about some celebrity gossip.

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So we're Tisha's still in mourning about Liam Payne.

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It's very.

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I loved One Direction.

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Did you get on his Snapchat at all?

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No, oh, I did, because they were like he Snapchatted like five minutes before he died.

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What was it?

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With his girlfriend.

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Yeah, no, did I send you the thing, though?

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Did you read the thing that I sent you?

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where I remember you've been sending so many things I know it was a deep dive, I can't read all those things because I can't read that sometimes I come out and I'm like what's going on in?

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the world I don't even know what, what's up, what's down.

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No, so it was the 9-1-1 call from the hotel person calling 9-1-1 and it's um in whatever country he was in, and so he's saying hey, I'm calling 911 operator the this person is is destroying the hotel room, he's on drugs and alcohol, he's erratic, I'm worried he's gonna hurt himself and jump out the window.

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and so she says, okay, he goes, so we need the medical team.

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And she, she says, okay, I'm sending the police.

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And he goes oh, no, no, you don't need to send the police, just the medical team.

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And she's like no, I need to send the police if he's on drugs and alcohol Because, like, the medical team won't enter without like protection because he's being erratic and he's saying he was smashing things and freaking out.

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But then why does he want the medical team if nothing had happened yet?

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That was supposedly prior.

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So what do you think happened?

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So I don't know, I just think it's kind of weird.

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No, tell what you really think you should tell me on the phone what you thought happened.

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What did I say?

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You said you thought he already jumped or they killed him.

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Yes, exactly.

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And then they need to cover up.

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No, it's super weird.

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And I did listen to the 911 call and I did think it was weird that they thought he was going to jump.

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How do you know that?

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Because it was before I knew that's how he died.

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And I was just listening to the 911 call and I thought he overdosed and I was like why is he so worried about it?

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And then they said there's you know the conspiracies which we like to talk about that maybe he was.

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Yeah, was he doing this before?

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I haven't heard that.

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I don't think so.

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He did say he was at a PDD party.

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Have you seen that?

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Oh, I saw that.

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Yeah, he could have really just jumped though, but I just think it's weird.

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And then, like, there's so many things that they don't release, and then when they do release things, it sometimes makes me suspicious, because they're very choosy with what they release.

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Yeah, it is not saying what I was going to say.

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Releasing, yeah, but do you think he did tell someone that?

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being in a boy band ruined his life Well yeah, do you think that's true?

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Yes, it ruins everyone's life, right.

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That's why, if one of my kids wanted to be famous, I'd be like no.

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Yeah, I'm not being dumb, but people ask me if Hudson should model.

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Yeah, I'm not saying she's gorgeous, but it does come up a lot.

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She is so gorgeous Because she's a redhead and she's tall.

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Yeah, and I'm like no way, I would never.

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The whole industry is awful.

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Yeah, do you think that everyone that makes it to the top has done?

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Really?

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Have you seen the Kardashians with P Diddy and all of that?

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And then did you see Kris Jenner's word because her show's tanking so she has to cut Kory?

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What show the Kardashians?

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So?

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Clearly you haven't been watching.

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No, I thought she had her own separate show.

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Remember when she had her own showic.

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She looks real skinny.

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They're all so skinny.

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No, but Kris wasn't before, and now she is.

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Yeah, she is.

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She got on the train late.

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Yeah, I think so.

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Yeah, I don't know, but yeah, do you think that they did things?

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Khloe went with P Diddy at 16.

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Did you see?

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that this is the thing.

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Right now.

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P believe this is going on.

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This goes on with all celebrities all the time.

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Like this is.

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So do you really think in order for them to get to the top, they have to do something really bad?

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I think that's true because our friend that we know, who was in Hollywood lightly, she was asked to do some things.

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Exactly she was on X Factor.

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We could say that, yeah, kind of.

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Yeah, like a singing show yeah.

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She was on X Factor and she was making it pretty far and then one of the judges put her in a predicament and she was like I don't want to be famous.

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Yeah, I don't want to go down that road.

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No, so yeah, I do think.

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I think 90%.

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I has to be yeah.

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So, speaking of so, we're not going to be famous.

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No, we're fine with it.

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We just hopefully that we have like 10 listeners and we're good.

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Yeah, 10,000 would be fine, but like a million would be too many.

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I think a million would be fine, maybe not 10 million.

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So Tisha's always wanted to be famous.

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Let's just we're.

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We're going to get to that later in the episode, but it feels like it's at the tip of my tongue.

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Yeah, so, Tisha, we were talking about it today and like we've been talking about relationships a lot, as always, and we were talking about your first boyfriend.

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Yeah, let's call him Bon.

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Yeah, and um, how they started dating and all the things.

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And then she went to college.

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She went to college with me for a year, only a year.

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And then I went to ASU.

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Then she went to ASU and she was still with her high school boyfriend and then she decided to do what Tish.

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To move to California.

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For what?

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Well, because I wanted to go to.

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Well, I had a dream.

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Tell the truth, yeah.

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You're already starting to lie.

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You're already starting to lie.

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Tell the truth.

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They already know it was on last season Because we had the no, I don't think we told.

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I don't think it was, but we had the ice chest story.

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you know yeah, go ahead.

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No, I wanted to.

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You got the headshots to be on saturday night yeah, I did get the headshots.

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I forgot about that.

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I was like where are those?

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I don't remember so tisha got headshots.

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I got headshots.

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She was moving to la to be famous, which was awesome.

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I wanted to go to the groundlings yes, I remember that school yes, that was the school that everyone went to.

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That went to saturday night life.

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I guess I'm not that funny, but you said I'm the funniest person you know.

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Oh, I think you're so funny.

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I know, and I'm not even just saying that, because you're my friend, I know I think I'm funny too.

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I think everybody thinks you're funny, yeah, I do.

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I feel like.

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Or maybe I'm just the friend, that's like you've got it.

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Well, I, yeah, you do give that vibe in the beginning.

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Yeah, it's weird, we're like opposites, like people think you're that word you just said, and then they get to know you and they're like she's so nice, yeah, and then everyone thinks I'm so nice and then when they get to know me, I'm really like more like strong personality.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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But now if you listen to the podcast and you're a jerky, you're like I love Tisha.

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Well, I was funny because I was.

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We got to get back to the Hollywood story.

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But I was so glad we made this because now more people like me, oh, so many more people like me.

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I was going around the world, but no one liked me.

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And I think they're like I thought you were a good Christian girl and now you're kissing your friends and doing weird things like a but now I lost my train of thought.

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But Tisha and oh, I was listening.

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So we have been recording and I was listening to last week's episode this week driving and Tisha makes fun of me because I'm always like it's so relatable and she's, she's like, hey, I listen to the podcast.

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It's so really, it's so funny and I just really relate to it.

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I'm all you relate to your own stories Like no shit, stupid.

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She's like.

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I said this thing and it's so relatable and I'm all.

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I hope you relate to your own life.

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Well, when I'm listening, I don't really feel like it's me and I actually side with you.

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So I was listening and I wanted to tell myself, shut up, let her talk.

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Like I wanted to hear what you had to say because I didn't agree with me.

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So, like I'm one of those listeners that's on Tisha's team, you are even like me more.

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Yeah, I do like you more and I was like listen, I was like, shut up, let her talk, I want to hear her point.

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No but I was just telling I am team Tisha.

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I was just telling Crystal, when I'm telling a story, I'm like all excited for my big story.

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I've been playing it in my head and then I'm all this is my moment.

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And then I'm like mid-story and I look over and she's all on her phone and I'm like, and it ruins my mojo, because I feel like I'm like, oh, all deflated, I guess it's not that funny.

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Well, I think you can do anything if someone believes in you, but I think what makes me more funny.

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Is you like egging me on you?

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know, yeah, I think you're so funny.

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Okay, so Tisha moved to LA and then you didn't end up going to Groundlings, you ended up going to where.

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I'm sorry, are we going?

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You have to tell the whole story.

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I'm going to take a trip down memory lane because I'm ready to go, you know.

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Well, there Come on.

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No, I moved to LA and then I was looking for a job and my roommate, who I just met here and we moved together, which is so weird.

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But I actually thought of her the other day.

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Do you remember her last name, because I would like to look her up?

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No, me, I don't remember her name at all.

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Her first name was Jessica.

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Jessica, if you're a jerky, call me.

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Anyways, she was like, yeah, I used to work at hooters and I was like, oh, really, well, there was a hooters in like a nearby town, pasadena, and so we were like, oh, let's go to hooters.

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So we went to and that's back when she had.

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I had hooters then yeah so now they'd be like did you make good money at hooters?

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It was decent.

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I honestly made such good money, serving more than like teaching what's good about serving is like you can work as hard as you want, like it'd be like miraculous I I'd be, like I need to make six hundred dollars today to pay the bills I would.

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I know it's crazy not a lot of jobs you can like control that.

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So you move there for the life you wanted to be famous.

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You wanted to be go to growlings.

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You wanted to um be on time in life.

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What happened in your life like while you were there, was it fulfilling?

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no, it was not fulfilling.

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What'd you do?

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I worked at hooters, I mean, I don't know many people that find that fulfilling like I achieved everything, like on my tombstone.

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Here lies you know.

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So now we called it the hoot.

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You know that's an inside joke.

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Okay, anyways moving on alumni yeah, so good thing you didn't run into like no p diddy at a party.

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No, tisha does have a friend that is friends with celebrities and has been telling us these stories for years I know we mentioned him last week we did yeah, yeah.

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And he said if britney keeps acting like this, she's a goner.

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Yeah, and is she here or a clone?

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You'll have to listen to last week's episode to talk about that, I feel like she's a clone, yeah, but I feel like it's sad.

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In hollywood they say like no one's really ever happy duh they're all.

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They're all on drugs, I know, but you still chase money, thinking you're gonna be me totally, I know.

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I hear when people are like money doesn't buy happiness.

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I'm like, yeah, yeah, you know.

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Oh, my god, you know, yeah, yeah, anyways.

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No, I know, I don't know.

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You can have money and be unhappy, right, but you can be money and be happy.

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Talk about happiness, because we were just talking about I know, I was trying to wait for it, but we went to.

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I went to church last night and, um, in the beginning of the episode they talked about what was the whole thing about, happiness, and they talked about on a scale from one to 10, the sermon on the mountain on a scale of one to 10,.

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How happy are you.

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And he, like, gave us a minute, so let's give our listeners a minute.

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Jesus gave us like a guide to being, to finding true happiness and fulfillment.

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And well, he does in that sermon.

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So they're going to break it down over the next like whatever many weeks which I really actually like that.

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Yeah, so on a scale from one to ten.

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How happy are you?

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let's take a minute.

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Everybody think about it.

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Everyone jet you too on a scale from one to ten.

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How happy are you after what happened this weekend?

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So, tisha, I asked her today driving how happy are you?

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Not trying to boast your happiness, but you had a pretty high number.

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Yeah, it was a 12.

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No, I'm all an 87.

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I really am a 10, though.

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Yeah, I was like a nine or a 10 too, which is funny.

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Of course, there's moments throughout the day that I'm unhappy, but, like everyone in my family's healthy.

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I'm healthy, um, we have a great life.

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I'm like, happily married, my kids are all alive and well, so I feel like there's really no problem, yeah, and he was saying that in America we're like the freest country that has the ability, like the most money, like we're most people's.

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He was saying $50,000 in any other country you would be in the top 10% of wealth in America.

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In that you are if you make over 50,000, you're in the top, like 10% of the world.

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But then he said, on the happiness scale, what was it?

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It's like the lowest yeah.

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But I think that's like society, especially among, like, young teens, yeah, which is crazy.

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Well and I we have edit.

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We've offended some people in our podcast before, so we do have to edit certain stories.

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But it is like in a generation growing of, like, how do you get happy?

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We've talked about this before in the past, but my parents didn't really worry if I was happy.

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It wasn't like a concern of theirs.

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They could care less if I was happy.

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Yeah, I was super weird.

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I had a mullet and I really liked to eat food in the cupboards.

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So those were the things they were more concerned about.

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Like, is her hair going to grow out?

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Is she ever going to stop eating?

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Those were things.

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Well, my mom was like getting married for the fifth time and I was like, if you marry him, I'm not coming to the wedding.

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And she was like, okay, bye.

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And then I was all at the wedding like on my boat, you know.

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I.

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That's it.

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I'm going to off myself.

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I'm going to hold my breath, you better, I'm going to hold it.

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Have you seen those things where they're like did you play down the pool to get attention?

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And I totally did.

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I was all like I'm on Any minute.

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Now they're going to run out here.

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No one ever came and I'm all right.

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I did do that.

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Yeah, no, that's so weird going you know, yeah, and I would try to be the best thing anyone ever did for me.

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A hundred percent.

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I was packing once I was done with them and I was like that's it, I'm running away.

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And my dad's like you're going to need this, putting it in the bag, you'll need a blanket, it's cold out there.

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And then I was like dad, I'm serious.

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And he's like all right, don't forget a sweatshirt for those cold nights.

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So I packed up and you know when you're raging, I was like this is it, and I leave and I go outside.

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And then they lock the door behind me and I like I go outside.

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It was like 8 30, which is pretty late back then.

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So I'd go sit out on the curb and I was like it was getting dark and there was these weird cars driving by and so I was like well, they're gonna come look in here any minute and I'm gonna hide.

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And it's like getting colder and no one's coming.

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So then there was a really weird car that kept circling.

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So I went back to the door and I'm banging on the door and my dad comes to behind the door and he said I thought you ran away.

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It's like, dad, can you let me in?

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There's a road car out here, come on, I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry.

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And he's like no, no, no, you said you were going to go find another home.

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Go find the other home.

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We there for like 30 minutes crying hysterically, begging him to let me, and I was so scared and he was like, if you move away again, you're not coming back in.

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Yeah, and I never did it again.

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But he smart, they were really good with that stuff.

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Yeah that my manipulations did not work.

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Like I would try all the things and they didn't.

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My dad he's like okay one time Ken was getting in the shower.

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She was.

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She was we're fighting.

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And she was getting oh no, I think I dunked her head.

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That's why the shower.

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I dunked her head in the toilet.

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So then she got in the shower to rinse it off because she was spouting off to me so I give her a swirly.

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And so she was like I hate you and I'm moving, I'm gonna call.

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Oh, she said I'm gonna call cps on you and I was like call them, because the family that you're going with they're not taking you to lululemon.

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Like you're gonna hate it.

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You know, like it sucks there.

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You know they're not taking you to sephora.

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Yeah, for the third time this week.

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And then she was like third time?

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no, that sounds awful I don't do that, I don't know, I know three times, but I think when you're raising, I was talking to a mom this morning.

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We were walking early and she was talking about her.

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You know, her son starting high school and things are getting harder and like, there's moments like, like who was saying this?

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a friend?

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I didn't know who you were talking about.

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I'm clearing things up for our listeners.

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A friend of mine said her son started high school and it's been like hard watching him like kind of find himself.

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Yeah, you know, I don't know like for you, but my daughter gets home, she goes in her room, doesn't really want to talk sometimes, you know, and like we make decisions where we say yes to some things, no to other things, and it's hard because they're mad or they're unhappy or kids have anxiety and stuff like that, and I'm not quoting it anxiety is a real thing.

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But I think what's interesting is sometimes when kids do have those things and we still let them have their phones and this, and that that kind of like stimulates anxiety.

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Yeah, like, even for me as an adult, like watching Instagram and Facebook, I kind of was in a habit where it was like something I was really doing a lot.

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And then, when I did 75 hard, when I was working out twice a day, my days were so busy because I would like work, work out, do other things, work out, and then I was dead tired so I started sleeping with my phone in my bathroom.

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Here's the throat thing.

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It sounds super weird, but I can't tell you how much better I sleep, like as as soon as it gets like eight 30,.

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I'm like I'm done looking at this thing and I plug it in and, like Kyle and I do watch shows more now we talk more at night.

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And it's like you should do that for your kids.

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No, I feel like they got to learn.

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No, I actually do feel like I should do it for my kids, but I haven't done it yet and it might be a good idea.

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But the thing is, kyle's told me that forever that I should put my phone away.

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I shouldn't do it and I wouldn't ever.

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Like I'm such a let reality be the teacher person that I almost think I go too far that way.

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Like let them figure that out or let them learn that lesson, but they're not going to learn that lesson because they're kids.

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Right, you know what I mean.

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But if I take it away, I think it makes it more forbidden of like, oh, I just want my phone, I just want my phone.

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Whereas, like, sometimes I know Maddie's gone to bed late and she's dead the next day and then the next night she goes to bed super early and I'm like, well, you're learning.

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Like it sucks, but I don't know that's a good question.

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I could do that for them, because I've taken Ken's stuff away and she admits to me that it's better.

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Yeah.

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But I've also taken it away from CJ and he's like no, not at all, and I'm all okay, You're like way happier, but you know, I know.

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Do you think that's a normal thing then, to just take it away for a period of time, or is it a punishment or like I don't know?

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How do you spend that?

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Well, I think it's not.

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I explained it like it's not a punishment.

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I'm just I can see a punishment, like you can't touch it, but I'm like you need to go put it up and you're done for the night.

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Yeah, and learn that break.

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And learn to take that break, because and then she'll be like, literally like an hour later she'll be like I think I was grouchy because of my phone, like she'll say that to me she admits it though, but I feel like I try to keep them so and maybe this isn't healthy either so busy that the time they're able to be on their phone is so minimal.

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You were with me all day.

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Did this ever happen to my voice?

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I don't know.

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But I don't know if that's always right, because it is a toxic thing.

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Well, and it's good to learn to be.

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It's okay to be unbusy too, you know.

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Is this a lecture just for me?

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today.

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No, oh my gosh, oh, come on.

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No, I agree, and that I always ran busy and I still run busy.

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Learn to be alone with your thoughts.

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Yes, yes, that's not easy for me, you know.

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Yeah, so you're still telling me about your 12 happiness.

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My point is though Wait, what was your happiness scale?

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My happiness scale was nine or 10, but I honestly could have said that a year ago it would have been a very different number.

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Like six months ago it would have been a very different number.

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I feel like after my dad I know here we go.

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She says the podcast got so boring at the end of last season because all you do is cry about your dad who says that to someone.

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I didn't mean it.

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Like that father passes away.

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I love your dad like he was my dad and, yeah, I'm sad about it too tell the listeners.

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You did tell me that I meant what you're lying it was like a heavier time and then I felt weird, being funny, being funny or like I wasn't able to be funny.

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I felt, and not like our podcast is just about being funny, but it was like I don't know, I just felt like heavy, it was just a different vibe, and I don't always we know I'm the tin man I don't know, I just felt like Heavy, it was just a different vibe, and I don't always we know I'm the tin man I don't always react good when people are going through a hard time.

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I'm not the most like empathetic.

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I know I'm surprised we survived that Me and you, I know, I feel like I was really nice though.

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Really you don't Nice I.

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I'm just not good at sitting in the moment.

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Yes, that's what it is.

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Like you were nice, but like at times maybe it would have been nice if you were like how are you doing?

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Is everything?

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okay, I showed up on.

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Father's Day.

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Yeah, that day you did, but like on a random day.

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That was like a hard thing, Like after, because it's like, okay, he passed, okay, we had the funeral, okay.

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So it's like everybody else starts moving on and you're like not moving.

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I'm trying to move on, but I can't move on and it's weird that life is just different to me now.

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Yeah, it's, it's horrible for work We've been talking about it, the market's not our favorite right now and things are a little harder.

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And you know, I was quitting a few times.

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I mean, you know, god only knows when I'm really going to do it.

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But, um, it's weird.

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Like I know our friend, our friend, went through a really hard time and she lost her husband and suddenly, and for years she said she just didn't care, like, and it's like, when you look back, it's not a gift cause you're going through so much pain, but it's a gift that you see life so clearly.

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Like you know, when you're yeah, like when you're going through hard, hard, real hard, you're like this is so stupid, this is so stupid.

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I remember even still I have that where I'm like this is stupid, I can't care, and maybe because my aunt's going through it right now too.

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So it's like so clear that life is so short that I'm like I, you know what, if you don't want to drop the price of your house to sell it, then don't.

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It's weird.

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I like can't, can't care, and I need to care about certain things and I can't.

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But I care about like bigger things, eternal things, like bigger things, but I can't care about the things that I normally cared about.

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I don't know, it's just weird.

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So a year ago, though, when I was stuck in the mess of not stuck in the mess of my life, but I think I was doing a lot of things for maybe other people, or I was like so consumed with like taking care of everyone or doing what I thought I should.

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You know, I grew up very like should.

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I always wanted to.

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You know, my parents were strict but laid back, but I always wanted to impress them.

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It was very innate for me.

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I don't know if it's because I respected them and loved them so much, but I really wanted to please, and I said this back when.

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But maybe there's an element of like.

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Now that my dad's not here, maybe I'm not putting so much pressure on myself to be I don't know not to make him proud, cause I know I am, but like now that he's passed, maybe the proud is a different testimony.

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I don't know, this is getting deep, for you know, for Tuesday, for, yeah, I, we didn't even talk about this this ever.

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I don't know where this come from, but I don't know, life's just different.

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So my happiness skill yes, I made some choices where I stopped doing everything that I wanted everybody else wanted me to, because I was falling apart and I was like exhausted.

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And now I'm like, wow, I feel pretty good.

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Yeah, I mean, there's always things you could change, but I think when you focus more on things, that like challenges make me happy, which which sounds stupid.

00:22:56.895 --> 00:23:10.618
But Kyle used to work for his family company, which you guys have heard about, if you've listened to us for a while, and then he decided to walk away and start his own business and there was always a difference in Kyle and I in like a confidence thing you know I have.

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My parents didn't really help me with a lot.

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They kind of would be the type of parents Well, when I was bad, when I was little, they used to tell me they were gonna drop me off at juvie and that was awkward.

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So one time I remember my mom's like we've driven our kids there no, my mom's like get out of the car.

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And I was like hold on, please, mom, please, mom.

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And she was like go stand by that tree.

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And there was this trucker there with the big semi and he was like sitting out there and I was like I'm not going there.

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And my mom's like go stand with that guy.

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He's gonna take you, juvie.

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No, he was gonna kid at me, but like you were at, juvie, no, we were at a park.

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Oh, she's gonna leave me at a park with the trucker.

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Yeah.

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And he was gonna take me like that book we read, where he has the girl you know.

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Yeah, and I was scared to death and I was like mom, no, please, don't eat me.

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And then one time they left me at um dairy queen I was probably so excited to be there, I was like another sample and they left.

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It was like my birthday and they left Like I'm sitting there and my whole family's gone.

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And like a half an hour later they came back and they're like sorry, we just forgot you.

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It was so sad, like on purpose.

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No.

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That one was on accident.

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One time we were at Buffalo Exchange and me and my mom got in a fight and then I see her car drive by and I'm all like I was all any minute.

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She's gonna come chasing after me and I'm like on Glendale, like you know, and I look, look so small, like I'm surprised I didn't get kidnapped.

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And then I see the car go and I'm all did she come back?

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I don't remember, I just remember seeing the car go.

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Well, clearly I'm here, you know I'm all.

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No, but the family that's been raising me for the last 30 years is so nice.

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No.

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But oh my gosh, no one fed into the tangents Again.

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Our parents didn't care if we were happy.

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No, but my parents did challenge me a ton, yeah, like when I joined cross country it wasn't good, yeah, and I was like a big girl and parents were tough.

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But they didn't let him struggle, like because that's how you get strong is through the struggle.

00:25:02.537 --> 00:25:05.939
But I know like even now it's hard with our own kids.

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Like you just want to help.

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Yes, I don't feel like our kids struggle Like both of ours, like really In general.

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I feel like there's been struggles like they're maybe not that you know of, but there's times where I'm like this is hard and they're going to be okay, like, for example, when Hudson made the different team last year.

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I felt like you were almost more mad about it than I was at times.

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Remember, you're like do something because the carpool and I was like no, she's fine.

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And it was like months of like crying and feeling left out and this and that I mean it wasn't like she was on the street, but like it wasn't like I really.

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I guess hard for them.

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Yeah, there's totally things and like, let's say, playing time.

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That's the thing Kyle and I discuss all the time with Broxton.

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You know, like, playing time he'll he'll be more offended by it than I am.

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Like, let him sit the bench, he'll learn, he'll grow.

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Let him battle, let him talk about him, let him say that he's not giving his all Right, that's okay.

00:26:03.659 --> 00:26:11.403
Yeah, like, but we want to move teams to make sure our kids get playing time and move teams so that, like no, let him battle, let him be uncomfortable.

00:26:11.403 --> 00:26:12.583
Yeah, let him be upset.

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You know, mm-hmm.

00:26:14.787 --> 00:26:15.227
Yeah, they have.

00:26:15.307 --> 00:26:23.246
Maddie didn't like me for six months last year maybe I'm just all well, that's not really a struggle, but it is, I guess, in their totally you know, what do you think they're gonna do?

00:26:23.266 --> 00:26:24.589
worry about paying bills at this age?

00:26:24.589 --> 00:26:27.096
Yeah, yeah, those are big struggles at the time.

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Yeah, I feel like they do.

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I feel like you know, but maybe you just rescue yours all the time and that's why they don't struggle that's so stupid.

00:26:33.709 --> 00:26:36.232
No, no, I don't know, I just think it's encouraging.

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I feel like the life they lead is pretty well, I think, because, compared to what you yeah, that's what I'm maybe thinking of a struggle of like a real struggle, not like the struggles they're facing, which sounds bad, it does sound like more pure struggle yeah, but like you can't measure that off of other things like, but I do think that's the difference in why some of the like people aren't are have all these problems when they're like.

00:27:02.230 --> 00:27:05.924
Made up problems as opposed to what do you do like not give your kids something.

00:27:06.165 --> 00:27:07.248
I mean, I know that's true.

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I'm all like, yeah, yeah, so not go to Sephora three times.

00:27:10.556 --> 00:27:19.053
I don't, I was joking, no, but like in reality, yeah, there's not much that you say like hard nose right but I don't think Ken is like unhappy.

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She's pretty happy, I feel like.

00:27:20.395 --> 00:27:21.730
So what do you think makes her like that?

00:27:21.730 --> 00:27:23.730
I don't know, maybe because her mom's crazy?

00:27:23.730 --> 00:27:28.736
No, but like I'm just saying, some of the people that are struggling, I don't know.

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Well, I think those are internal things.

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They go to church, they do good things.

00:27:31.994 --> 00:27:34.173
I think, like again, they're battling.

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I think the sport that that they're in, they're very disciplined, they work very hard.

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I can tell such a difference in kids that have, like even our cheerleaders, like is the biggest deal that they ran a mile and a half?

00:27:47.782 --> 00:27:48.565
Last week, right, oh my gosh, they went and told the athletic director we ran a mile and a half.

00:27:48.565 --> 00:27:49.172
I can't believe it, but they were.

00:27:49.192 --> 00:28:08.362
All have been in such a good mood since, right, and it's like if we don't give challenge, they'll create challenge and that's negative that's what I'm saying yeah, I think there's not enough challenge, so they're making you know yeah totally Well and I think that's what happens with celebrities is, once they get everything handed and they have all the money and the power, then I think that's why P Diddy got to the level he's at.

00:28:08.362 --> 00:28:19.189
It was like then it turned into inappropriate challenges because it was like he craved something and he could have everything at his fingertips Right.

00:28:19.509 --> 00:28:33.099
So then, like, let's go after that's why, if you go to like a third world country and they're worrying about, like when you went to Guatemala, no one was worried about like if they were like having anxiety that day, totally Cause they were like where am I going to eat?

00:28:33.181 --> 00:28:33.602
Totally?

00:28:33.602 --> 00:28:34.846
Yeah, my kids too it was.

00:28:34.846 --> 00:28:35.428
We went.

00:28:35.428 --> 00:28:41.789
We went on a mission trip last summer, went to Guatemala with an organization, hope for Kids International, that we love.

00:28:42.332 --> 00:28:43.817
I grew up going on mission trips.

00:28:43.817 --> 00:28:55.101
I went on a few big ones growing up, so I really wanted my kids to see the world outside of themselves and we tell this story sometimes but that's going to offend somebody, but I don't know.

00:28:55.101 --> 00:29:12.049
I think sometimes, like with everything going on in America, there was a day where we were driving down the street one day and if this person's listening, I love you so much, but it's just a good story and there was flags lining this whole row and I drove and I was like gosh, doesn't that make you like so proud?

00:29:12.049 --> 00:29:14.876
And she was like no, and I was like why not?

00:29:14.876 --> 00:29:22.171
She's like when everyone's treated fairly, then I'll be proud of our country.

00:29:22.171 --> 00:29:24.339
And I was like okay, and I sat there and I said hey, have you ever been outside of the country?

00:29:24.339 --> 00:29:24.800
Just curious, right?

00:29:25.123 --> 00:29:29.748
And she said no, and I said that's why you're not proud of that flag, like when you.

00:29:29.748 --> 00:29:32.015
It's not about the politicians.

00:29:32.015 --> 00:29:38.269
I hate that the flag has become a side that you're on, because so many people have done so much for the freedoms that we have.

00:29:38.269 --> 00:29:55.522
And I think, when you go to other countries and I've been lucky enough to go on a few mission trips and see a lot of things outside of the country Even on, you've been lucky enough to go on a lot of travel trips, but you've still seen other things and you're going to go on a mission trip you said you want to, yeah, but that's horrible.

00:29:55.522 --> 00:29:57.492
Well, I know, but you still are seeing things.

00:30:01.286 --> 00:30:06.618
No, when you go to other countries.

00:30:06.618 --> 00:30:07.220
Bahama Air showed you a lot.

00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:08.363
I know that sounds really dumb.

00:30:08.363 --> 00:30:09.325
I'm blushing, I'm embarrassed, I'm mortified.

00:30:09.464 --> 00:30:11.393
I sound like a spoiled idiot.

00:30:11.393 --> 00:30:13.646
You're just yelling about your kids being spoiled, I know.

00:30:13.646 --> 00:30:17.593
And now I'm like oh God, no, I'm saying yeah, exactly.

00:30:21.204 --> 00:30:22.186
I'm like gotta change, just go ahead, what'd?

00:30:22.207 --> 00:30:24.732
you see, on bahama air though no, but we are.

00:30:24.732 --> 00:30:33.035
We're laughing because she's worried about taking it again our flight got canceled and we had to take the, the like the local airline and it's.

00:30:33.035 --> 00:30:37.210
We were on an island and it was different it was different.

00:30:37.230 --> 00:30:38.292
The um airport was a warehouse and it was different.

00:30:38.292 --> 00:30:38.653
It was different.

00:30:38.653 --> 00:30:41.402
The airport was a warehouse and it was different.

00:30:41.402 --> 00:30:51.294
And yeah, no, but we've been to Mexico, we've been to a lot of places where I feel like it's a different lifestyle than what my kids are living and they've seen.

00:30:51.294 --> 00:30:54.894
They're like, oh, they're selling stuff on the side of the road.

00:30:54.894 --> 00:30:56.550
I'm like, yeah, to get money for their family.

00:30:56.550 --> 00:30:58.827
Yeah, like that's their life.

00:30:59.128 --> 00:31:03.788
What's cool about when we were in Guatemala and for my kids, cause they were thrilled to go yeah, they were not, they were.

00:31:03.788 --> 00:31:05.492
Maddie was crying the first two days.

00:31:05.492 --> 00:31:06.255
I want to go home.

00:31:06.255 --> 00:31:10.384
Like, there was a few bugs in our hotel room and it was just different.

00:31:10.384 --> 00:31:27.013
Like, and it was the nicest hotel in the city by far Um, cause the organization we go there to serve but um, she was so out of body with just like, we were all sweating.

00:31:27.013 --> 00:31:27.335
There wasn't AC.

00:31:27.335 --> 00:31:30.806
Luckily there was AC at our hotel, but the bus we were on, we I might've told this story last season, but it's so funny so we land in the airport.

00:31:31.146 --> 00:31:32.429
There's no AC in the airport.

00:31:32.429 --> 00:31:33.289
It is so hot.

00:31:33.289 --> 00:31:36.954
So we're waiting for um customs and we're just dripping, like, dripping.

00:31:36.954 --> 00:31:45.011
But it's weird how, if I was in Arizona dripping, I would be so irate, right, you know, I'd be like this is ridiculous.

00:31:45.011 --> 00:31:46.559
It's so hot out, like we can control it, but there no one says a word.

00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:48.445
You don't even like complain that you're hot, because everybody's hot.

00:31:48.946 --> 00:31:51.310
So then we go, we go get the bags and then we get.

00:31:51.310 --> 00:31:53.794
We're waiting for the bus and then their trucks.

00:31:53.794 --> 00:31:57.279
They're like on the ground and there's not a bed.

00:31:57.279 --> 00:31:58.781
It's just like a trailer flat.

00:31:58.781 --> 00:32:01.165
So we see the truck and he's like, yeah, your luggage.

00:32:01.165 --> 00:32:03.993
And they had it already stacked up like four high with luggage.

00:32:03.993 --> 00:32:05.808
And we're like, well, where, where should we put our luggage?

00:32:05.808 --> 00:32:06.892
She's like just throw it on.

00:32:06.892 --> 00:32:08.986
And I'm like, oh no, there's no bed.

00:32:08.986 --> 00:32:11.008
And so they just they stack it all the way up.

00:32:11.008 --> 00:32:17.256
So the bed of the truck is here and now the luggage is above, like the cab, you know, and they're just about 12 bungees.

00:32:17.256 --> 00:32:17.875
You know.

00:32:17.875 --> 00:32:19.758
The guys are out there sweating, put the bungees on.

00:32:20.199 --> 00:32:23.587
And kyle and I just looked each other and we're like, and the kids are like, dad, are they taking our luggage, like that?

00:32:23.587 --> 00:32:25.594
And we're like, yeah, but they're like get on the bus.

00:32:25.594 --> 00:32:34.410
So we get on this bus and we don't know that it's everybody that we're going to be on a team with the windows are all open, it there was no ac and everyone's just there.

00:32:34.410 --> 00:32:38.757
And we get on and we, we sit down and then they just start handing these bottles.

00:32:38.757 --> 00:32:40.179
They go here, you'll need these.

00:32:40.179 --> 00:32:42.461
Um, there's lice where we're going.

00:32:42.461 --> 00:32:44.586
So you just got to spray this so you don't get the lice.

00:32:44.586 --> 00:32:51.730
And Maddie looks at me like what you know, like when we had lice at the school, it was a whole deal Like, yeah, that's so not her.

00:32:51.730 --> 00:32:52.892
Yeah, it was crazy.

00:32:52.892 --> 00:32:56.038
So then I would have been beside myself about that we go, we ride.

00:32:56.198 --> 00:33:02.353
It's so hot, they're like sweating in the bus, you know everyone has their windows open, it's bumpy, no seatbelts.

00:33:02.353 --> 00:33:10.076
And then we get to pizza hut, which Kyle was pretty excited because, out of the options that we were seeing, it looked like the Ruth Chris.

00:33:10.076 --> 00:33:10.897
So we were excited.

00:33:10.897 --> 00:33:13.828
We get in there, we sit down and Bruxton just pukes all over the whole table.

00:33:13.828 --> 00:33:17.915
This is about an hour into our mission trip, but he was so hot and so sick.

00:33:18.636 --> 00:33:19.017
Yeah.

00:33:19.298 --> 00:33:24.317
But we went and we saw the kids in the in you know where we went to serve and they were.

00:33:24.317 --> 00:33:31.868
They came up and they were just hugging us and hugging us and our kids were so scared about the lice to begin and then by the end they were all over these kids.

00:33:31.868 --> 00:33:36.048
They didn't worry about themselves, they worried about, like others, and that whole trip.

00:33:36.048 --> 00:33:46.857
It wasn't like a Bahamas vacation, which Tisha and I do take a lot of trips, and it might sound kind of annoying on here sometimes, but we both grew up where we didn't really take trips with our family.

00:33:46.857 --> 00:33:49.452
So I think that's why those are so important to us.

00:33:49.452 --> 00:33:56.673
Like I always saw other families going on trips and I'd be like I want to do that Me too, and so I really like that's so important to me now.

00:34:00.765 --> 00:34:04.354
But it was just as fulfilling and fun as if we were in the Hyatt on the beach in the Dominican yeah, it was.

00:34:04.354 --> 00:34:06.178
And like our family, we all just got along.

00:34:06.178 --> 00:34:09.251
It wasn't like mine mine, you know, it wasn't like.

00:34:09.251 --> 00:34:12.684
It was just such a like magical experience, yeah.

00:34:12.684 --> 00:34:14.867
So again, I think that stuff feeds into happiness.

00:34:14.867 --> 00:34:21.353
I think when you're serving others and thinking of others, it is more fulfilling, yeah, so.

00:34:21.875 --> 00:34:22.655
I know it's hard.

00:34:22.655 --> 00:34:27.740
I just, yeah, I don't I struggle with how to have the kids be less spoiled.

00:34:27.740 --> 00:34:32.840
I don't, I don't know, Cause I feel like it's so hard with.

00:34:33.985 --> 00:34:34.909
We live in a bubble.

00:34:34.909 --> 00:34:35.893
We live in a bubble.

00:34:35.893 --> 00:34:37.110
We live in like a North Peoria, which a lot of people.

00:34:37.110 --> 00:34:38.960
If you live in a bubble, we live in like in north peoria, which a lot of people.

00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:45.014
If you live in arizona and you hear west side, there's this, like there's this.

00:34:45.014 --> 00:34:47.217
What is it called like stigma?

00:34:47.217 --> 00:34:50.150
Stigma that it's different, or get over there.

00:34:50.150 --> 00:34:51.273
That sounds rude, but that's the truth.

00:34:51.454 --> 00:34:59.847
Our friends have told us that I feel like that's like more southwest right when you say west side peoria, when you say peoria, yeah, that's why they throw the North in.

00:35:00.628 --> 00:35:02.253
True, yeah, it's North Peoria.

00:35:02.333 --> 00:35:06.324
Yes, it's like, oh, you know, yeah, yeah, but it is the stigma.

00:35:06.324 --> 00:35:13.789
But where we live, I feel like it's a little bit Like Stanford wife Pleasantville.

00:35:13.909 --> 00:35:16.112
Kind of yeah, just very, it's very like yeah.

00:35:17.092 --> 00:35:18.152
And we're blessed because of it.

00:35:18.152 --> 00:35:22.836
There's a lot of like Families, families All the families are very involved.

00:35:22.836 --> 00:35:28.079
I feel like, yeah, there's a lot of like religious people Stay at home moms.

00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:30.322
It's a little bit like leave it to beaver-ish yeah.

00:35:30.322 --> 00:35:40.733
I would say yeah, so I think we're like in a bubble sometimes, where maybe we're tone deaf to other things right, because our surroundings are so different all the kids in a good way lives well, like for.

00:35:41.293 --> 00:35:42.036
I think I told the story.

00:35:42.036 --> 00:35:45.867
But for picture day, ken was like I need a new shirt for picture day, blah, blah, blah.

00:35:45.867 --> 00:35:48.094
And I was like no, you don't like, I just bought you school clothes.

00:35:48.094 --> 00:35:49.570
Like, wear something you've already worn.

00:35:49.570 --> 00:35:50.577
She was like no, no, no.

00:35:50.577 --> 00:35:53.286
And so of course she talks me into going to get her a shirt for picture day.

00:35:53.286 --> 00:35:59.958
And then we saw like friends there getting the same shirt for picture day, yeah, and it and it's like it's the norm, but it's like not okay.

00:36:00.224 --> 00:36:01.688
Did you get a new shirt for picture day?

00:36:01.708 --> 00:36:02.309
when you were little.

00:36:03.032 --> 00:36:04.896
No, really no, did you?

00:36:04.896 --> 00:36:07.112
Yeah, but my mom put me in these ruffle things.

00:36:07.112 --> 00:36:08.469
I had the bangs up like this.

00:36:08.469 --> 00:36:12.693
I was like her dress up doll in a weird way, like JonBenet, but who ate too much.

00:36:16.244 --> 00:36:19.612
JonBenet, jon job, do not john.

00:36:19.612 --> 00:36:26.286
It was so bad, john beignet, like beignet well, and then, and then they made me edit that out.

00:36:26.286 --> 00:36:27.110
That wasn't a funny joke.

00:36:27.110 --> 00:36:29.503
I think it was fine, oh really who cares?

00:36:29.523 --> 00:36:29.985
I don't even know what.

00:36:29.985 --> 00:36:31.007
Yeah, it's fine, that's sad.

00:36:31.007 --> 00:36:41.601
No, but my parents I kind of think I was like now we're having an epiphany that like I was the butt of their jokes, like Like I think my mom and dad were like this is funny, let's have her do this.

00:36:41.641 --> 00:36:42.864
We're bored, let's ruin our life.

00:36:42.945 --> 00:36:44.451
So there is this thing called the gong show.

00:36:44.451 --> 00:36:45.273
Do you remember the gong show?

00:36:45.273 --> 00:36:46.871
Oh, my church friends will just die.

00:36:46.871 --> 00:36:52.572
So it's where, like it used to be like a show on TV and if someone was bad they would gong them.

00:37:00.005 --> 00:37:00.447
And that mean actor.

00:37:00.447 --> 00:37:01.751
There would be like acts, yeah, and there's a big like gong.

00:37:01.771 --> 00:37:03.137
So they were just like living their life and you'd gong them.

00:37:03.137 --> 00:37:04.382
No, no, no, it was acts like a talent, oh, like trying out.

00:37:04.382 --> 00:37:05.306
Yeah, so you would try out.

00:37:05.306 --> 00:37:07.512
And then, if you were, it was getting bad.

00:37:07.512 --> 00:37:13.170
They would just bong like gong you, your family would gong you no, well, you just let me tell the story.

00:37:13.751 --> 00:37:18.005
So at church they had a gong show for new year's eve.

00:37:18.005 --> 00:37:21.516
So it was a big show and we had a lot of talent at our church back then.

00:37:21.516 --> 00:37:24.855
Everybody was like singers and dancers and all this stuff.

00:37:24.855 --> 00:37:26.971
And I think my mom and dad were like let's have her do it.

00:37:26.971 --> 00:37:37.532
And I'm not a singer my friends that knew me then they talk about this story all the time and they were like let's have her sing.

00:37:37.532 --> 00:37:39.568
And I was like Mom, but I don't really sing, you're a good singer.

00:37:39.568 --> 00:37:41.371
And they always told me I could do anything.

00:37:41.371 --> 00:37:42.733
So she's like you're a good singer.

00:37:42.733 --> 00:37:43.534
And I was like, really.

00:37:43.534 --> 00:37:45.757
And my dad's like yeah, you're the best.

00:37:45.757 --> 00:37:46.900
And I was like okay.

00:37:46.900 --> 00:37:58.376
So they gave me like the big bow and the poof hair and so it's like this huge like thing.

00:37:58.657 --> 00:38:00.320
So my parents like just sing this song.

00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:02.469
And so they'd have me practice growing up.

00:38:02.469 --> 00:38:04.572
Christmas list oh my gosh.

00:38:04.572 --> 00:38:06.965
Like Melissa and Natalie oh my gosh, if they hear this.

00:38:06.965 --> 00:38:10.695
So my brother would like play it and make fun of me and he'd be laughing.

00:38:10.695 --> 00:38:12.849
And now that I'm thinking about it, my parents were laughing too.

00:38:12.849 --> 00:38:15.576
So they'd be singing.

00:38:15.896 --> 00:38:18.134
So I get on stage and it's like the big thing, there's judges and it's like this huge thing.

00:38:18.134 --> 00:38:20.264
So I get on stage and it's like the big thing, there's judges and it's like this huge thing.

00:38:20.264 --> 00:38:25.012
So I'm singing, dead serious, like my parents told me I was a good singer and I believed them.

00:38:25.012 --> 00:38:27.036
So I'm like this is it, I'm going to be the champion.

00:38:27.036 --> 00:38:42.271
I'm like picturing the trophy and so I'm like it's like ding, like you know how the playing and it's when you used to play the music you'd buy the version without the singing.

00:38:42.271 --> 00:38:43.675
Yeah, yeah, so you could sing over it.

00:38:43.675 --> 00:38:50.489
So the music's playing and I'm just standing there because I got so nervous, and then they're like honey, it's turn, your turn.

00:38:50.931 --> 00:38:52.679
So I was like okay, can you start over please?

00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:54.385
And it's just me and a mic, just like this.

00:38:54.385 --> 00:38:55.806
And so it's like ding.

00:38:55.806 --> 00:38:59.329
And I was like this is my grown like and it's like ding.

00:38:59.329 --> 00:39:03.974
And I was like this is my grown up and it's Amy Grant.

00:39:03.974 --> 00:39:06.338
So I'm like singing it and you know when someone's really trying how their voice shakes.

00:39:06.338 --> 00:39:21.311
Yeah, I was like this is my grown up, you know, like Christmas, you know, you know, and sure enough, bong.

00:39:21.311 --> 00:39:24.619
And I was like six, like six and like this church that gonged me.

00:39:24.619 --> 00:39:29.856
It's like my mom said I'm the best singer there is, and so they're gonging me.

00:39:29.856 --> 00:39:32.471
And I didn't know what it meant because my mom didn't tell me.

00:39:32.471 --> 00:39:42.079
She just told me I'm a good singer, I'm gonna win this show, so I keep singing gonging you more like throwing things at you.

00:39:43.429 --> 00:39:54.391
So the people had to come and like man, honey you're all done oh my gosh, and then it was so mortifying oh you gotta call.

00:39:54.391 --> 00:39:55.550
We'll call Melissa on the way home.

00:39:55.550 --> 00:40:08.394
She's still like grown up and I think my parents were up there like yeah, like they're all let's, yeah, but I really believed I could do it.

00:40:08.614 --> 00:40:17.820
It's just like, but I think that's why it's so good they made you do stuff, because I feel like they probably wanted you to like learn, to try new things and not be scared I didn't have any friends there.

00:40:17.820 --> 00:40:20.391
I didn't have any friends you're good at that, put yourself out there.

00:40:20.391 --> 00:40:20.972
I didn't have any friends.

00:40:20.992 --> 00:40:24.065
And I feel like you're good at that putting yourself out there, yeah, because my parents they made you yeah, oh yeah, so that's a good lesson.

00:40:24.065 --> 00:40:31.190
Yeah, I was like a loner that ate a lot in the room by themselves, but now I'm not like that, anyways, so challenge.

00:40:31.190 --> 00:40:40.498
So my parents gave me a challenge, yeah, and they and young, they were in the front like you would think they'd be like go, go, but they're like you're doing great.

00:40:40.597 --> 00:40:42.679
And then my whole family makes fun of it.

00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:44.621
No, I don't feel like my parents ever felt bad for me either.

00:40:44.721 --> 00:40:45.420
I'm like why do I?

00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:46.762
always feel bad for my kids, you know.

00:40:47.161 --> 00:40:48.164
I know it's weird.

00:40:48.164 --> 00:40:49.666
I think you're just connected differently.

00:40:49.666 --> 00:40:54.793
You feel really bad for your dogs, oh, my gosh, she spent $800 yesterday taking the dog in.

00:40:54.793 --> 00:40:57.195
It was so dumb you wouldn't even take your kids in.

00:40:57.195 --> 00:40:58.777
I know you barely take your kids in.

00:40:58.797 --> 00:41:00.079
I barely took Fox last week.

00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:03.490
He was puking in the car and a 104 fever, but you take those poopies in.

00:41:04.365 --> 00:41:05.510
The poopies is a stupid name.

00:41:05.625 --> 00:41:06.630
I can't wait for us to post this.

00:41:06.724 --> 00:41:11.670
I worried he ate a Lego, it's like damn I know, but if Fox ate a Lego you'd be like you're.

00:41:11.851 --> 00:41:16.217
Anyways, they're fine.

00:41:16.217 --> 00:41:17.038
The poopies are fine.

00:41:17.318 --> 00:41:19.000
Did you have anything else to talk about today?

00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:21.407
No, let's see, we were going to talk about.

00:41:21.427 --> 00:41:29.677
I really did want to talk about, though, like how to make our kids less spoiled, and it's hard because I'm like I feel like I need to hear a podcast about that, you know, yeah.

00:41:29.925 --> 00:41:31.688
Maybe somebody could give us one, so like for CJ.

00:41:31.748 --> 00:41:32.532
He's going to be driving.

00:41:40.105 --> 00:41:40.527
He gets his license.

00:41:40.527 --> 00:41:41.510
Oldest, my oldest, he's 16.

00:41:41.510 --> 00:41:42.974
Great kid, such a good boy, super proud of you.

00:41:42.974 --> 00:41:44.360
Don't call him a good boy, yeah, I do, he's 16 he's a good boy.

00:41:44.380 --> 00:41:44.681
He's a good boy.

00:41:44.681 --> 00:41:45.644
Do you really talk to him like that, like the?

00:41:45.724 --> 00:41:49.936
poopies, please don't tell me you talk to him like that no, I yeah, I say you're a good boy to cj.

00:41:49.936 --> 00:41:54.239
Wait, you talk like that to your cj time out without.

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Oh, we need to talk about that one show because you know, when she kisses her son on the lips and then he's like trying to move his lips, like you kiss cj on the lips, I would kiss all my kids on the lips forever until they're dead.

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That's so normal and it is not normal.

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It is normal, no, it's not yes, it is like it's, it is normal.

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I want to take a poll.

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I wish we could take a poll.

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We will take a poll when this post.

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I would kiss him because I'm like no, you sick, no, but anyways.

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So cj the good boy, no, he's getting his license do you talk to him like this so?

00:42:25.172 --> 00:42:28.764
we are giving him ben's truck that ben has had for 10 years.

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It's a 2014 tender, it's paid off, ben's been the original owner so it's always been taken care of, has 200 000 miles.

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So we felt like we were like giving him this really nice truck, right like it's so nice, it's like got a lift, it's got nice tires oh, I think it's so nice ben's been driving it like he's a established 40 something year old, like it's a good truck.

00:42:49.813 --> 00:42:57.407
So we're like, yeah, we're like, so nice parents giving him this like nice car I totally agree he is like you know making it he is making it.

00:42:57.447 --> 00:43:00.074
He's got the nicest truck at liberty, yeah, and then he's going to have girls in there.

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Yeah, like hoes in the back of that truck.

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No God, no, that's horrible, no, anyways.

00:43:04.835 --> 00:43:16.871
But then so I'm driving him and his friend to football, carpooling, and we're talking about like the cars at school and I'm like, yeah, like, i're like, yeah, like the truck's not that nice.

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Who said that the boys?

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They were like not?

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In a weird way, cj was like, yeah, it's nice, but they're like I'm like kids have nicer trucks than that at your school.

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They're like, yeah, I'm like, wait a minute, what he's like.

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And I'm driving like a nice Suburban, it's like nice.

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And CJ's like it's his car.

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He's like, yeah, he's like they all have like nice cars and so that's where it's.

00:43:41.315 --> 00:43:43.907
I feel like it's hard in our Bubble.

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Yeah, because I'm feeling like we're we're giving him this thing and he's kind of thinking like he's getting a hand-me-down.

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It's so it's weird, like the car I got when I was that age.

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I mean, my dad bought me a nice car, but it wasn what CJ's getting.

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So it's just weird how I'm like.

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I'm thinking we're like so, the best parents ever giving this nice truck.

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And then he's kind of like, yeah, it's cool.

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You know what I mean.

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I think the school we went to, I mean no one in the planet had a truck like that, no, but we were all happy, that's what I'm saying.

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We all, we our friend Caitlin got her license first and we all jumped in a crappy thing, like do you think he'd be happier?

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Like I don't know what to do.

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Is what I'm saying?

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No, I don't think there's anything to do there.

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I think that's the trick you've decided he's getting.

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It works for your family.

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I think that that that's something he has to learn and that's something we still battle with.

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Right?

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I got a lecture last night at church when we went about happiness and about what we're chasing, cause I keep feeling this innate thing to stop working so much and but I'm worried about paying up for all the things and the trips and the bills and the cars and the houses, and it's like maybe God's trying to tell me that's not what my calling is, you know, and maybe, like CJ, will have a journey where he goes.

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What I was talking to my friend about this morning is she was talking about raising her kids and I said sometimes we have to remember that God's going to join us halfway, like there's going to be situations in life that he's going to have to figure these lessons out.

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They're not going to be like Kyle's family.

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They all got.

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Once they graduated, they got good grades, they got scholarships, they got to pick whatever car they wanted.

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Whatever car they wanted and it was to the nines.

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They got to put wheels and tires Once they graduated and got scholarships.

00:45:21.849 --> 00:45:24.358
Yeah, but like they got a car to drive when they were 16.

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Right, two years later they get to pick the nicest.

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Their cars are so nice, right.

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But I would not say that Kyle and his family are entitled at all.

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No, like they were raised very humbly and they're hard workers.

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They're such hard workers, this thing didn't mean that, but do you think if they would have gotten it right when they turned 16 that they can't matter, and not had to work hard for it, it would have been different?

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no, I think the way bonnie lives it's like they don't.

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Bonnie is my mother-in-law.

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She also very much instills like work ethic.

00:45:51.992 --> 00:45:55.539
You don't like bonnie and lance my mother's father-in-law.

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Good choices and stuff, yeah and they're all so smart with their money.

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They're all like very conservative and I grew up with nothing, so I want to like just spend it, cause like we never had anything.

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So I'm like let's go on a trip or let's buy them this.

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Like I never got soda at dinner.

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It was like something I always wanted.

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It was like water, and we didn't go out to dinner a lot.

00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:21.340
So I think I go out to dinner a lot Cause I never got to go and I saw all these families going to dinner and we were getting like Lenny's burger, which was really good.

00:46:21.701 --> 00:46:22.141
Oh, it's so good.

00:46:22.181 --> 00:46:23.903
Yeah, it's so good, or like McDonald's.

00:46:23.903 --> 00:46:26.253
You know we did that, but I don't know.

00:46:26.253 --> 00:46:32.795
I think it's like the values, like even my nephew and niece my brother does well, um, and they are.

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They are very blessed and that's what my brother always says we're very blessed.

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But he also very much instills in them the ability to give.

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They also have been on mission trips.

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They also like they would give literally everything in their pocket to someone else more than take it for themselves, and they work really hard, yeah.

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And so, like a lot of people say, oh my gosh, like my nephew got a G-Wagon fully matte black when he was 16.

00:46:53.875 --> 00:47:03.244
But like my brother's also watching him, him kid, he's a great kid, yeah, and I don't think that he's, I mean, yeah, like entitled, yeah, I don't.

00:47:03.389 --> 00:47:07.331
And I feel like I don't get that vibe from him either I don't and I don't think my niece is either.

00:47:07.331 --> 00:47:09.240
They literally would do anything for anyone.

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This is like so giving.

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She's always buying my kid stuff.

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I'm like quit taking stuff, you know yeah, but because he did this, the yin and the yang.

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He gave them things, but he also showed them the art of giving.

00:47:18.675 --> 00:47:18.876
Yeah.

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Yeah, do you know what I'm saying?

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So, it's like the giving counteracts.

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Yeah, and he also watches them battle.

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Like, my nephew moved to college two weeks Wait, he left the day after my dad's funeral and my dad and my nephew were best friends so, and they lived with my brother in the house.

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They had their own separate part of the house but they were so close.

00:47:38.193 --> 00:47:43.322
So not only did my nephew lose, like his second dad, and everything just changed when my dad died.

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He goes off to college the next day and it was so, so hard.

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Then, like two, three, maybe a month later, his girlfriend of a year breaks up with him.

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Like it had to be gut wrenching for my brother and he was like you're fine, and I know he inside felt so bad for him.

00:47:59.420 --> 00:48:01.387
My brother was also in pain after losing my dad.

00:48:01.387 --> 00:48:03.713
Everything was a mess and Jordan was gone.

00:48:03.713 --> 00:48:08.432
So not only did my brother lose his dad, his best friend, but his son, who's the second best friend.

00:48:08.432 --> 00:48:10.798
But my brother, like, watched him battle.

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He did not rescue him from the battle.

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He was like you're fine, you've got this, and I'm sure he called him upset and he was like you're fine, keep going, keep going.

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So I think there's so much to the battle, you know, and he had a room and, like Jordan, never even stayed in a bad hotel before that.

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And then he's staying in this dorm with there was all kinds of things going on.

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But my brother never like gave in.

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He's like you're fine, you're fine, but I know it was gut wrenching.

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So I think it's those moments where the battle is happening and I've probably told this story before, but I always think about this and I always give it to the parents of my teams.

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There's the cocoon, where the butterfly, the caterpillar, is in a cocoon and this little girl walks by and sees this caterpillar struggling to get out of the cocoon.

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So she's watching it struggle and watching it struggle and she's feeling so bad.

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So then her instincts kick in and she decides to go and like, help crack the cocoon and open it so that the caterpillar can come out and be a butterfly and fly.

00:49:05.726 --> 00:49:10.561
So she just kind of barely helps break it open because she didn't want to see him struggle anymore.

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And, sure enough, when the butterfly came out, it could never fly.

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It flopped all around and it couldn't get going.

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And she didn't understand why it couldn't fly.

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Well, what she didn't understand is that the butterfly, the caterpillar, having to work at opening that cocoon, that's what made its wings and arms strong enough to be able to fly.

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And when she cut that battle short by rescuing it, the butterfly, then this whole life could never fly, because you, you cut the battle short.

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And I think so often we want to like, save our kids, like, oh, they're battling, let me just switch teams, or let me just go get them the shirt, or, you know, just let them have the phone, or get them this Facebook.

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We all do that, I do that.

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But instead we need to remember is that struggle that God's putting them through or we're putting them through, is what's going to give them the strength to fly?

00:49:56.335 --> 00:50:00.360
So I mean enough, said Don't buy her the new shirt next time.

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No, I'm just kidding, I don't think that stuff matters as much as you think it does.

00:50:03.103 --> 00:50:04.545
Yeah, I think it's the real battles.

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I think, like I don't know, the whole school picked on me one day in sixth grade my friend who tries to be my friend these days and I really like her, but she was not the nicest of the playground and the whole sixth grade is yelling things at me, like throwing rocks at me, and I'm this bigger sixth grader.

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Then I'm covered up and I'm crying hysterical and my teacher calls my parents and they said I would move her schools.

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He was like one of the best teachers ever, mr Shoop.

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He said I would move her schools.

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She's getting bullied so bad I'm worried she might like hurt herself.

00:50:46.036 --> 00:50:47.081
Yes, he's like I've never seen bullying this bad.

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You got to get her out of here.

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And my parents are like she's fine.

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So I go home and I'm like a wreck.

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You know when your kid's emotional, I'm like crying.

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I am like mom, I hate my life.

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And she's like get mom, I just had the worst day ever.

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The whole school's laughing at me.

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She's like okay, so you're going to gymnastics it's in 10 minutes.

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And I was like mom, can I just have a night, one night where I can sit and just feel sorry?

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And she's like no, you're not going to sit and feel sorry.

00:51:10.331 --> 00:51:12.612
The school yelled at you Big deal, get your leotard on.

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And it was.

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So I get the leotard on and I go to gymnastics, where they make fun of me too.

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What are you going to do?

00:51:23.021 --> 00:51:23.561
Sit on me.

00:51:23.641 --> 00:51:27.244
You know all the things, but like that was such a big battle for me.

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I remember it always that the day I wanted to give in the most was the day that my mom taught me to fight.

00:51:31.768 --> 00:51:42.125
Yeah, so I just think it's doing for me when I was struggling with my dad.

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Maybe you were like trying to be oh my gosh, I'm getting emotional, but like not saving me from the fight.

00:51:48.043 --> 00:51:50.798
Maybe it was a blessing that you were like you're good, keep going.

00:51:50.798 --> 00:51:52.777
Yeah, like you didn't sit and wallow with me.

00:51:52.777 --> 00:51:56.175
You were like, all right, we're okay, most of my kids are going to be great.

00:51:56.175 --> 00:52:03.572
Yeah, great, yeah, I'm never wallowing.

00:52:03.572 --> 00:52:06.802
But like you're you know what I mean like looking back, like we were working together and we were doing things together and maybe that wasn't the best thing.

00:52:06.802 --> 00:52:07.626
Right for you to wallow with me, right?

00:52:07.626 --> 00:52:08.347
Maybe it was you like helping me.

00:52:08.347 --> 00:52:09.251
Yeah, you know fly, so you're welcome.

00:52:09.251 --> 00:52:09.775
Yeah.

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Basically, I hope you have friends that aren't emotional and don't care when you're suffering.

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I feel like it's a good stopping point.

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I feel like my kids are gonna be great.

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Yeah, today I'm all.

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No dinner for you.

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I know I'm all sleep outside.

00:52:22.202 --> 00:52:25.445
Oh, too much yelling, all right, well, just done with us.

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Welcome to jerking around.

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A podcast that makes you feel better about yourself, because we're a mess just like you, and Crystal makes fun of me and it's great and it's real.

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