S3 E8: Social Media Myths and Holiday Mishaps

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Welcome to Jerking Around, a podcast that makes you feel better about yourself, because we're a mess just like you and Crystal makes fun of me all the time and it's great and it's real.

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Welcome to Jerking Around.

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Today we talk about how much trouble we get in for this podcast and we break down Christmas and being a healthy giver in the bedroom.

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Oh, we didn't talk about UFOs.

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We'll talk about that next time.

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Listen along, welcome.

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Jerking Around.

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So there's so much to talk about today because we skipped a week, because Tisha went on a traveling ban again Stop, not ban, that's the wrong word.

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But she went to Disneyland and to see family.

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So we missed last week, which was fine.

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Tyler and I were very sick, but Tyler doesn't stop working.

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He worked the whole time.

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Yeah, but we got in a lot of trouble while we were gone.

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We had our first TikTok go viral, which is pretty exciting.

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Yeah, but Tisha was in the fetal position the whole time.

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Yeah, I don't think it was exciting.

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Tisha hated it.

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I loved it.

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If you guys saw it was about Justin.

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Bieber and P Diddy's alleged story.

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But what's so interesting about that is, I feel like Tisha and I have obviously been conspiracy or truth people.

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Um, a lot of our friends say it's conspiracy.

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We don't think so, but I mean, some stuff is like we, we didn't think the election would go like it did and, um, I've gone too far many times where I believe all of it sometimes, um, but I've been watching people for years and I feel like when you get censored, you've made it and our video got taken off of TikTok all by itself like we had no say in it.

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So the alleged thing that we talked about and you have to listen because, uh, I don't think Tisha will.

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Let me say it again, right, the alleged thing is between what episode?

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was that on?

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two times times ago.

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Right, Justin Bieber and P Diddy's sons.

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The alleged story Alleged Alleged being the keyword, but why would TikTok take it down?

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There's so much garbage on TikTok, why would they have taken it down?

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If it's not, maybe true?

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That's where I'm at Well what happened?

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We're getting my husband's like stop talking, I don't want people at the house I know like, and the people are so mean on the comments.

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They they were calling me old and all these things and then they were saying I was gonna get sued by Justin Bieber and like I lost sleep over these comments be told we love Justin Bieber.

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He's like one of my favorite people ever and all I was saying.

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It was literally a two second clip of our whole podcast.

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I said I saw online that one of the lawsuits against Diddy she was alleging that this happened and it went viral and it was like I mean, I've never it made me feel bad, though, for celebrities.

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You know, like when celebrities are like oh, they're the mean comments online, I'm always like like Kylie Jenner's, like oh, the mean comments.

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I'm like, oh my gosh, who cares?

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Like the mean comments you really do.

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Now I understand the comments are so mean and like it's so upsetting and then thinking I was gonna get sued, I was so stressed out so maybe we need to have like a disclaimer.

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This is just stuff we've heard and read and seen and this is not factual until it's proven.

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I think the fact that it got taken down is factual.

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But until it's proven, I think the fact that it got taken down is factual.

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But Tisha's more worried than I am.

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Maybe I should be more worried.

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I just think I didn't know I should have spit out my gum.

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I didn't know all this stuff before you and I feel like it's also our job to.

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It's not about like, obviously, in that story, but I do think people need to know more that this stuff is out there and the only way they find out is by talking about it.

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I'm not saying everything's true, but I'm saying think about it.

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Like when you start thinking about all of it, like I don't even want to go into Oprah, but we're going there.

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But Oprah has all these schools for kids and they talk about, like the kids that are being trafficked a lot of times are in like a system.

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That's why, like, their parents aren't fighting for them.

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A lot of foster kids are trafficked.

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It's awful, it's a that's a fact and the fact that a few of these celebrities who supposedly like, if we go into the wayfair scandal yeah, so the wayfair scandal was actually pizzagate.

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There was like a documentary I watched on youtube about the pizza thing.

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And did you hear Diddy talking about pizza from jail?

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No, wait, for real, oh my gosh.

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He's like talking to one of his guards and he's like you got to remove the pizza boxes from jail.

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It's like a recorded call and he's like any unused.

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That can't be real, really.

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Oh, okay, diddy, and Justin Bieber.

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No, I'm just saying like why would he be talking?

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How does he have a pizza box in jail?

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No at his house when he first got arrested.

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He's telling them to remove unused pizza boxes.

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Oh, that means kids.

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Yeah, that are in the tunnels.

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The tunnels is like a whole new thing, though I know I did see the tunnel.

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I saw a tunnel video about a guy who worked at a Starbucks underneath the tunnel video about a guy who worked at a Starbucks underneath the tunnel.

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He was on a podcast and he was saying he was the barista at a Starbucks underneath these tunnels that, like the elites take to get around the city faster.

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But then some people said a comment and I felt like it was actually a really good point.

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They were like why would Kobe be driving a helicopter then to get away with traffic?

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But a helicopter is still faster than the tunnels.

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True, you know what I'm saying?

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Yeah, and it was like far so they probably didn't have.

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They were saying they pop up everywhere like LAX, no we got it.

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Tyler, I don't know about you, but I like playing the clips when I listen.

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I like it.

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You used to work at a secret Starbucks.

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Is that right?

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Is that right?

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Yeah, there is a Starbucks that is like above reserve, like a Starbucks no one's ever heard of or been to.

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All right, you ever wondered while driving in Los Angeles, how come you've never seen like Will Smith stuck in traffic on the 405?

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Yeah, I've never seen a 1%-er just in their car stuck in traffic.

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Why is that?

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That's because there's a series of intricate tunnels underneath Los Angeles, known as the actor bond.

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I'm not kidding, like they get access points to move through the city without ever having to be in traffic.

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You can come up in LAX.

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You can pop up at Dodger Stadium.

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Underneath there, in those tunnels, is Starbucks's set up at different locations to allow them to get coffees while they're driving.

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All of them they don't pay there either you've seen seinfeld down there?

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I know I've seen seinfeld down there.

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Dude, almond milk, latte, two shots.

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Wow, yeah, is he a good tipper?

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They don't have to pay, so this has been.

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Crazy.

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This is alleged, but it's on another podcast.

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Bill Posey is his name.

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It's on his podcast.

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This guy had an NDA signed and it expired, so now he's allowed to talk about it.

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But then someone was saying NDAs don't expire, you never know how it's written.

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Yeah, it could have been your term of while you're working at Starbucks.

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It's not like a normal NDA, it's like a employment NDA, so it could have been while they were working at.

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These are all alleged things, but it's weird how much the tunnel topic comes up.

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That's my whole thing is like.

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When I first heard about the underground tunnels at people's houses, I was like okay.

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Then when it came up like 10 different times, 10 different things, I'm like this is kind of weird.

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So we're not saying it's true, we're saying look into it if you're curious.

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Well, there was a girl that was like allegedly trafficked and she was saying she was moved through the tunnels but then they were calling her crazy.

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So I don't know that's what they called Kanye when he was trying to speak up about all these people.

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Like it is crazy, mel Gibson, but Mel Gibson, but it's, yeah, mel, like the people that have died of pneumonia.

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Everybody the hamburger.

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What Mel Gibson, when they like made him crazy because he was like something with the hamburger.

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What did he do with the hamburger?

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He was drunk, and so they like released this video because he was talking about all the trafficking and pedophilia and then they tried to make him look like he was drunk.

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Now I'm getting scared.

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I know I'm scared.

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Okay, anyways, maybe we should cut.

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No, we're not cutting.

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Tisha woke up this morning.

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We want to cut every episode, everything I'm sick about it Because I got in a little trouble this weekend.

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You know this life isn't for the week.

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Yeah, I've gotten in trouble by friends and family.

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So if you're one of my friends and family and you secretly listen, I love you and I love all of your beliefs and any of our friends that believe differently than us.

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We love you.

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But we're just Tisha and I just think when we're alone and we're talking it's interesting.

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So we just want to share what it's like being on the Well, when you're here, it doesn't seem like anyone's going to listen, and then when it's out there, it's very different.

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I listen to our episodes and I don't think there's anything that wrong.

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I think part of my whole passion project with this thing is I think there's so much fakeness in the world that I'm so sick of the fakeness.

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I talked to so many women because I'm a little bit more outgoing than Tisha, but I talked to people about weird things and when I talk to people I get like really deep really fast.

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And I've talked to so many people that are like wait, you do you go through that, or your marriage isn't perfect all the time, or you get sick of your kids.

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And I think that's what people are curious about about old school reality tv.

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Like when the Kardashians first came out, it was interesting that they're like us yeah, you know.

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And like when I used to subscribe to us weekly, my favorite section was they're like us.

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We're not celebrities at all, but I think sometimes we're so open with each other it's the connecting with people Because we've been friends for so long that we don't like we're not fake to each other and I just want to share that with other people.

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Like when you tell me about you and Ben's fights, I feel more normal, right.

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And when you tell me that your family time isn't like lolly doll like it looks on Instagram, right, and you're my best friend, right.

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I'm like okay, like Kyle and I, this holidays were super weird for me this year without my dad, and my family was on a cruise and I didn't see my other family.

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It was hard, I think.

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Last year we went on a cruise and we got to escape it.

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Right.

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And it was hard and like one night I was like this isn't like what it's supposed to be, like it's supposed to be like it's supposed to be.

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And Kyle's like crystal, my husband, he's like that's not real.

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Everybody has hard times and everybody goes through this and you're like too hard on yourself because I always worry if I'm enough.

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Was my Christmas enough?

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Is our family time enough?

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Am I working too much?

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Am I being a good enough wife?

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Like I literally stress about being enough every day.

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So I just want people to know all these things are normal and the things we talk about.

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The celebrity gossip is just fun, like it's interesting, we really talk about some.

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we do talk about this all the time and we don't really.

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You don't have to agree or not agree, it's just interesting and it's like an escape conspiracy podcast, but we do talk about that stuff, so we just included it, you know.

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Yeah, and, like to me, I think those celebrities put themselves out there.

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It's part of the territory.

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As the comments that were coming in, I told Tisha not to listen, not to read them.

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The people that are commenting don't know us, like who cares what random people think about us, and I do think we're going to have to get a thicker skin if we're going down this path.

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Well, that's the thing I thought.

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I had a thick skin.

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No, you don't, and then I was like oh, shoot, I don't.

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No, I know you don't.

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That's why I don't want you to listen, because you worry too much about what random people think.

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Who cares?

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Yeah, it was very, oh my gosh, and I didn't.

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I honestly in life I don't care what people thinks, and I do feel that way because I don't.

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But I've never put myself out there, so they don't really know me.

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So I know when they think something, I'm like that's stupid.

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But now I'm like I'm putting myself out there and I'm getting called old and mid and all these crazy things.

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I'm like it's awful.

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They were like why do these two have a podcast it you have a podcast.

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It's stupid, she's crying.

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I'm like, no, I'm like.

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Tyler believes in us, our pod daddy.

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I was like old.

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And we don't care, we're just doing this.

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Honestly.

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It feels like a calling yeah, like we're supposed to do it.

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Not that we're supposed to talk about celebrities and this stuff, but I just like, if I'm going to say certain things to you, I don't want to not say that in front of other people, because that's fake and a passion project for me.

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As Christians, people judge, um, christians for being one way and then, in secret, being another way, and so, like I was listening to last week's episode and it wasn't my favorite listening to me um, have some drinks in college and I was really honest about that.

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I felt like an idiot listening.

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I'm like, oh my gosh, my cheerleaders are going to know this and I.

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But I'm like, but that's not fair, because that is my story.

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I was a Christian that went off the clear path and that's part of God's journey for me is that grace is where he loves us, in spite of Right, all the things Grace is in spite of.

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If you're going to say, like I didn't do everything right, but I still ended up with a great husband and a great life, and I'm getting on a soapbox For those of you that think maybe you've made too many mistakes that you can't get right.

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You can get right, like we are both, so not perfect.

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So I am a Christian.

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I try to be more like Jesus every day, but the truth is half the day I'm doing it wrong.

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I am so doing it wrong and I'm trying to do it right, but I'm not ashamed of that, because that's his job to judge us and it's his job to love us.

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In spite of ourselves and as Christians and of people, I hope we try to be more, have more grace with others too.

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So those friends and family that are mad at me right now maybe have some grace and know I'm just talking about shows.

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It's not offensive to you.

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So you know I got in trouble for talking about certain shows and maybe I offended a certain culture, but I'm not.

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I'm not trying to, but we did talk about these shows.

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We talk about them all the time.

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So I don't know, this soapbox is a tangent, but it's hard.

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I hope that we're being authentic to who we really are and if you don't really like who we are, don't listen.

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A lot of times people's events is really more to do with them.

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Right, which is funny because last week's podcast cause I asked a few of um, like our jerkies and friends and family that listened to every podcast if I offended them with certain things that I've said and this and that, and they're like no, not at all.

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You know you got to listen to the whole episode for it to make sense.

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Um, but last week's episode was about don't be easily offended.

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It was about that church service.

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So I was talking to my cousin.

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I'm like, was I offensive to this person?

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That person?

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She's like.

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No, she's like.

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And the funniest thing is, last week's episode was about don't be easily offended.

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Well, hopefully they listened to that episode.

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Well, and when I re-listened it reminded me I can't live for what people want.

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I have to live created me to do this podcast with my best friend and I mean I'm not saying we, we, what we say isn't always right, we're just being ourselves.

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So that's my soapbox.

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Moving on, let's talk about more celebrity.

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Okay, kim Kardashian, again, she's not my friend, this is not alleged because the video of her doing Santa baby is god awful.

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It's very weird.

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I just think like I don't want their life.

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I do kind of want their Christmas Eve party.

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Sometimes it looks pretty fun like maybe.

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I just think like I don't want their life.

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I do kind of want their Christmas Eve party.

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Sometimes it looks pretty fun Like, maybe I just want to be invited, yeah, but I don't anymore now that I know.

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Did they not have it this year though, because I didn't see any?

00:15:12.784 --> 00:15:13.508
It's real secret.

00:15:13.508 --> 00:15:15.400
So Chloe didn't go, yeah, with the kids.

00:15:15.581 --> 00:15:16.942
Right, but no one posted.

00:15:16.942 --> 00:15:18.245
Usually they post everything.

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Oops, maybe it was in the tunnels, maybe no, but it's weird, yeah.

00:15:23.871 --> 00:15:26.495
But Kim's life, I just feel like it's, I don't.

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I feel bad, I feel like she's chasing all those things and I don't think her family life is as fun as she would want it to be if she wasn't in the spotlight.

00:15:37.611 --> 00:15:41.586
I think there's a lot of negative that comes with being in the spotlight.

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Oh, totally.

00:15:42.710 --> 00:15:45.559
You know, yeah, the video, though, is really bizarre.

00:15:45.559 --> 00:15:56.770
If anyone has seen it it's um, she does a cover of Santa baby, and Travis Barker produced the music video, which I was like, oh, that's kind of disappointing, because I really liked him.

00:15:56.770 --> 00:15:58.482
Yeah, but he's an artist.

00:15:58.582 --> 00:16:08.312
Yeah, like if it wasn't Kim Kardashian, it'd be a video you'd watch, just because you're like weird, like artists aren't like, yeah, it was very dark and disturbing, the video.

00:16:08.312 --> 00:16:09.153
I didn't watch the whole thing.

00:16:09.214 --> 00:16:09.721
Oh, you didn't.

00:16:09.721 --> 00:16:12.575
There's like Jesus is in it, and oh, I didn't see that.

00:16:12.575 --> 00:16:14.821
Yeah, it's like I just watched her crawling on the floor and stuff.

00:16:14.821 --> 00:16:19.086
No, there's like it's like Jesus is in it, but it's like weird.

00:16:19.086 --> 00:16:20.908
There's like a lot of really weird dark.

00:16:20.908 --> 00:16:24.351
Oh, I didn't watch the whole thing Like satanic vibes, it was just weird.

00:16:24.633 --> 00:16:25.793
I don't know, I didn't love it.

00:16:25.793 --> 00:16:26.715
Do you see how they dress?

00:16:26.715 --> 00:16:28.903
Yeah, but it's weird because they talk about God all the time.

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That's what I was like.

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It's very confusing, I don't think we'll know what really goes on.

00:16:31.660 --> 00:16:36.625
I was like I would be uncomfortable making that video because I feel like God would be like look's talk about.

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Christmas and how it was you were out of town.

00:16:47.221 --> 00:16:47.683
How was that?

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Was it?

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We were out of town last year.

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It was weird it was gone for Christmas and I feel like the kids.

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Well, first we went to Disneyland, and that was before Christmas, so that was fine because it is Christmassy there, but then we can you tell you're not gonna like this?

00:17:00.972 --> 00:17:05.368
oh no can you tell the story about when you got mad at everybody and yelled about being ungrateful?

00:17:05.849 --> 00:17:06.391
I, we did.

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I told it last week no, you told it to me in private no, we covered it here, remember, I said, I cried, I said the f-word oh, oh yeah, but yeah now you did tell all that and now you won't let us play that episode.

00:17:17.423 --> 00:17:21.575
Yeah, it's not my proudest moment.

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It is a good episode yeah, we'll play it eventually, okay.

00:17:24.664 --> 00:17:27.868
So, tisha, y'all that are kids before you went to disneyland, right?

00:17:27.868 --> 00:17:29.255
I think that's a very relatable.

00:17:29.255 --> 00:17:30.980
That story helped me like.

00:17:30.980 --> 00:17:37.669
I thought about it throughout the week and I was like, see, I'm not alone, feeling like I do and do and do and it's too much, right.

00:17:37.669 --> 00:17:39.095
So I thought that was relatable.

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It was relatable for me.

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Yeah, I felt better.

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It's just a delicate balance of giving them so much and then I'm mad at them because they're not grateful.

00:17:47.749 --> 00:17:50.508
So I don't know the answer, I don't know.

00:17:50.508 --> 00:17:53.326
It's really like I feel like that's the biggest.

00:17:53.326 --> 00:18:02.434
My issue with raising my kids right now, like what we're dealing with, is I feel like they're spoiled, but I'm the one that's creating that.

00:18:02.434 --> 00:18:10.779
Yeah, so I'm struggling because you know, I'm like how do I combat that we talked to obviously going on mission trips.

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There's, you know, giving, which I did.

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We gave to a group home in the neighborhood and we, like my kids, were very involved in picking out the things and like they were really excited about it.

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So that was like nice and I do think they're giving.

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They're just ungrateful for themselves, if that makes sense.

00:18:28.159 --> 00:18:33.074
Yeah, like they're very giving, but they're just kind of like I don't know, it's just ugh.

00:18:34.016 --> 00:18:40.063
Yeah, so we took him to Disneyland because, you know, spoiled no, spoiled, no.

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But we I've been wanting to take Fox because he's taller now he couldn't go on the rides, little buddy, before.

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Now he's tall enough to go and that was mostly the reason I wanted to go.

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So we went and it was fun, but it didn't feel Christmassy, like especially being gone.

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You know all the things you do leading up to Christmas, like the hot chocolate and the Christmas movies and going to look at lights.

00:19:00.942 --> 00:19:07.069
We didn't do any of that this year and it was kind of weird and it felt like it came really fast and I don't know it.

00:19:07.069 --> 00:19:35.951
Just I didn't have the same Christmas vibe and I feel like it wasn't like we went to church, but we went to church in Texas, we didn't go to our normal church and I do feel like normally at Christmas, I'm very aware of, like, the reason we're celebrating the birth of Jesus and I feel like it was more about presence and, yeah, it wasn't as like about that this year I feel the same, which is funny because I was home this year, oh really, yeah, and I still felt like it wasn't about the right things too, really, and I was trying to combat it.

00:19:36.112 --> 00:19:37.474
I I had the weirdest couple days.

00:19:37.494 --> 00:19:43.345
Tisha was out of town, yeah, and Anytime I leave and she has like a it was real Like a struggle.

00:19:43.490 --> 00:19:44.855
It's like I'm always gone.

00:19:44.855 --> 00:19:49.097
Yeah, it was bad and I like, last time you went, I was like I'm okay.

00:19:49.097 --> 00:19:54.061
This time, my brother was gone, my mom was gone, everyone was gone.

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It was weird.

00:20:01.030 --> 00:20:01.795
Well, that's why it felt weird for you.

00:20:01.795 --> 00:20:02.337
Yeah, no, but all the things.

00:20:02.337 --> 00:20:03.061
Have you ever just done the things?

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And we're like we're doing these?

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things, but it's not feeling the things.

00:20:04.930 --> 00:20:05.131
Yeah.

00:20:05.131 --> 00:20:09.480
So and I don't think Instagram helps when I was living in the trailer, we lived.

00:20:09.480 --> 00:20:18.836
We lived in a trailer for six months while we built our house and it was one of my favorite now memories, but in the time was one of the hardest things you remember.

00:20:18.836 --> 00:20:22.671
Yeah, cause I don't think I had told everybody, like Regina, one of our friends.

00:20:22.671 --> 00:20:34.273
She always says you make things look easy and I would, and I agree, like I don't always tell the hard to the to everybody, but I feel like you always get, so I don't think you would say that, right, you're like.

00:20:34.273 --> 00:20:36.157
Yeah, you're like, yeah, I don't think you make it look easy.

00:20:36.157 --> 00:20:38.083
Yeah, no, you've said it about little things.

00:20:38.083 --> 00:20:49.243
Yeah, but I don't like share when I'm really going through hard with a lot of people I only share it with, like you, kyle, jen, or any of you that are listening, that are my good friends, you've seen it.

00:20:49.324 --> 00:21:07.901
Yeah, so I don't always share that, but during the trailer, I had to get off Instagram during the holidays because we had a little tree like four foot not even like three foot on our table outside and it kept falling down because we couldn't put a tree in the trailer and all the traditions.

00:21:07.901 --> 00:21:13.503
It was COVID, and it was like we couldn't watch a movie in the trailer, right, we couldn't like do any Christmas activities.

00:21:13.503 --> 00:21:29.317
So I had to get off Instagram because I was getting so like bitter seeing everyone have perfect Christmas that I felt like so unworthy, like I was like, oh, I didn't, I didn't go see Zoo Lights, right, and I didn't go have family movie night with hot cocoa and I didn't.

00:21:29.317 --> 00:21:31.852
And I caught myself comparing and it was getting weird.

00:21:31.852 --> 00:21:45.421
So I got off Instagram for like all of December and January and it was one of my favorite times, yeah, because I noticed I, when you don't have that on your phone, which there's so many weird apps now, like I go to when I'm bored not weird, that sounds dark, like.

00:21:45.622 --> 00:21:46.263
Instagram.

00:21:46.285 --> 00:21:46.886
Tik, tok.

00:21:46.886 --> 00:21:58.998
Yeah, I don't gamble on my phone anymore, um, but like you go to, like there's a lot, and like you can go on Facebook and go to shorts, which is its own other Avenue of self-distraction that you can stay on.

00:21:58.998 --> 00:22:03.683
So I feel like back then it was just Instagram, Shorts weren't a thing, so it wasn't as.

00:22:03.683 --> 00:22:05.605
So if I took that off, I had nothing.

00:22:09.950 --> 00:22:12.630
Well, it's hard because I do feel like I am reluctant to post things on Instagram, but then I also want the memories for myself.

00:22:12.630 --> 00:22:23.912
So it's hard to know, like because you don't want to ever put something in anyone's face or be like, oh it's perfect because it's not, but then I don't want to complain on there either, because then I seem ungrateful.

00:22:23.912 --> 00:22:26.925
So it's just really it's weird it's the same thing, though.

00:22:27.146 --> 00:22:32.086
Yeah, people are going to have a problem with their own insecurities come out in other people's Instagram.

00:22:32.086 --> 00:22:37.559
Yeah, like people having a happy Christmas had nothing to do with me, right, it was them sharing their happy Christmas, but because my Christmas was so different than theirs, I was jealous.

00:22:37.559 --> 00:22:41.147
Right, it had nothing to do with me, right, it was them sharing their happy Christmas, right, but because my Christmas was so different than theirs, I was jealous.

00:22:41.147 --> 00:22:42.069
Right, they had nothing to do.

00:22:42.069 --> 00:22:44.422
They were allowed to post their movie night Mm-hmm.

00:22:44.422 --> 00:22:45.144
Do you know what I'm saying?

00:22:45.144 --> 00:22:49.096
So I think sometimes it's people's own insecurities, and so, whether you post or not oh totally.

00:22:49.296 --> 00:22:50.118
It's their own insecurity Every time.

00:23:02.910 --> 00:23:03.317
It was the trailer, I think.

00:23:03.317 --> 00:23:03.686
Well, I think back to what you're saying.

00:23:03.686 --> 00:23:04.154
You didn't feel Christmassy to you.

00:23:04.154 --> 00:23:08.976
I feel like sometimes, when kids get older, I think that's part of the change too, because this year we knew we were leaving, so we like threw up a tree lot our tree last minute because Fox was begging for it.

00:23:08.976 --> 00:23:13.595
Like, if we didn't have Fox, I don't even think we would put up a Christmas tree this year, cause we knew we were going out of town.

00:23:13.595 --> 00:23:15.176
We were gone for Thanksgiving.

00:23:15.176 --> 00:23:16.500
We were home for two weeks.

00:23:16.500 --> 00:23:17.381
You know what I mean.

00:23:17.381 --> 00:23:28.960
So it's weird because I feel like when they get older is when you need to do them the most, but it's kind of when you're like, oh well, that's not as important, I know.

00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:29.803
It's kind of annoying, though.

00:23:29.803 --> 00:23:33.482
All the good stuff I did like when they were young they don't remember.

00:23:33.482 --> 00:23:37.494
I had like really good Christmases when they were young and we do all this creative stuff.

00:23:37.515 --> 00:23:44.559
so my kids are doing that, Remember we had the Christmas party with all the kids and we decorate cookies, remember at like Denny's, yeah, but it's weird.

00:23:44.559 --> 00:23:48.335
We don't do any of that now and it's like I feel like it's less Christmassy.

00:23:48.335 --> 00:23:50.201
But maybe it's because of that, but I don't know.

00:23:50.201 --> 00:23:56.019
Fox was like my older kids do it for my.

00:23:56.019 --> 00:23:56.921
We did that for a year.

00:23:57.040 --> 00:23:59.765
Everybody knows and we forget about the elf.

00:23:59.765 --> 00:24:01.373
It's ruining their Christmas more than it's happy.

00:24:01.373 --> 00:24:01.894
It's dumb.

00:24:01.894 --> 00:24:02.476
I'm not moving.

00:24:02.476 --> 00:24:05.061
The elf, tooth fairy's dead, all these things are gone.

00:24:05.122 --> 00:24:09.993
Yeah, but my kids kept telling me it doesn't feel like Christmas this year.

00:24:09.993 --> 00:24:17.180
Yes, really, and it was getting on my nerves 50 times, but I'm just tired.

00:24:17.180 --> 00:24:26.855
Like by the we ran around all day and then when we'd get home I'd be like family movie night and they would want to be alone and we were together for like five days like straight, no friends, no, nothing.

00:24:26.855 --> 00:24:30.897
So I'm like this isn't a big deal, but what are the things that make it feel like Christmas?

00:24:30.897 --> 00:24:36.758
Because we did go to church.

00:24:36.758 --> 00:24:39.922
It wasn't kid-centered, but like what are the things?

00:24:39.922 --> 00:24:40.864
You know what I mean?

00:24:40.864 --> 00:24:42.346
I think they're traditions, I don't know.

00:24:42.346 --> 00:24:48.633
So I didn't have a lot of family traditions growing up.

00:24:48.633 --> 00:24:53.377
Natalie, my best friend, who does listen in and out and I've talked about a lot, her dad, tom, who I went to Guatemala with.

00:24:53.377 --> 00:25:07.036
He always had like we would go to, we had the Christmas traditions and I love jumping into her family traditions and she actually her aunt had a Christmas party and that was one of the reasons why I want to have a Christmas party with kids, right, like Santa came, gave gifts.

00:25:07.036 --> 00:25:09.719
It was like every year we couldn't wait for this Christmas party, right?

00:25:11.151 --> 00:25:24.759
But the traditions, I think sometimes are also what add so much stress to our plate, right, because I have been like maybe I was scroogish this year, so like I didn't get all people gifts Like I normally do.

00:25:24.759 --> 00:25:28.575
We normally do wrapping paper for all of our clients and we didn't do that this year.

00:25:28.575 --> 00:25:30.138
We had a work dinner.

00:25:30.138 --> 00:25:33.374
Usually, we do a work Christmas party that we didn't do this year.

00:25:33.374 --> 00:25:39.325
Um, we just went to lunch with the four of us cause our team is smaller now and I didn't want to get gifts.

00:25:39.670 --> 00:25:41.196
Everyone's like I'm like don't get gifts.

00:25:41.711 --> 00:25:50.601
And a few people were like we're going to get gifts and I thought I'm not going to get a gift just because I have to get a gift, because everyone else is getting me gifts and I'm going to spend money and I'm just not Right.

00:25:50.601 --> 00:25:54.719
And I honestly thought that lunch was amazing, Like when I was present.

00:25:54.719 --> 00:26:00.702
It's like sometimes I feel like we put all these things on our plate to check them off, but yet do we really want to do them?

00:26:00.702 --> 00:26:02.022
Yeah, you know what I mean.

00:26:02.144 --> 00:26:19.441
Like, do we like I coach with a bunch of coaches that I love and I didn't get them gifts, but like I didn't not that I didn't want to I just I feel like we go in debt so far at Christmas or you put so much pressure on yourself to do all these things that I think sometimes it ruins the spirit of Christmas.

00:26:19.441 --> 00:26:23.601
But, like for me, I felt very present but my kids were missing it, I don't know.

00:26:23.601 --> 00:26:30.663
So as moms, I also feel like moms really get they get a lot put on them for Christmas, like I know you, they do the whole Christmas.

00:26:30.723 --> 00:26:32.756
Yes, my husband's like what did we get?

00:26:32.756 --> 00:26:40.820
Yeah, and Bonnie, my mother-in-law, does an amazing job and Lance, my father-in-law, did a great job of giving her credit and she makes it magical.

00:26:40.820 --> 00:26:42.583
She does the scavenger hunt.

00:26:42.583 --> 00:26:43.525
She's very good at that stuff.

00:26:43.525 --> 00:26:46.578
She's amazing and as a mom, I like appreciate her more.

00:26:46.578 --> 00:26:55.057
I made our kids do a little scavenger hunt to be like her this year and she does a great job of doing the things and I think sometimes maybe those things make it cool.

00:26:55.057 --> 00:26:59.502
Yeah, but moms have to do most of the shopping which I had.

00:26:59.502 --> 00:27:09.420
Kyle, my husband, he's like a really smart money man, you've heard, but I get in trouble for spending 24 seven.

00:27:09.420 --> 00:27:15.856
It's the biggest thing we fight about, I think, is money, and I haven't been working as much because, as you know, I was quitting, so he's had a little bit more say on my spending.

00:27:15.856 --> 00:27:17.019
It's a.

00:27:17.019 --> 00:27:21.633
It's been a real joy, yeah, um, so I had him order the Christmas gifts.

00:27:21.633 --> 00:27:24.058
I started this way because what happens?

00:27:24.140 --> 00:27:26.055
is we'll, just he has no idea what anything costs.

00:27:26.055 --> 00:27:27.079
No, he's like out of touch.

00:27:27.260 --> 00:27:29.028
We go to dinner and he's like that was $50.

00:27:29.028 --> 00:27:30.874
I'm like welcome to the world.

00:27:30.874 --> 00:27:36.053
So I've decided that I'm gonna let him buy the gifts so that when he wants to yell about the credit card, he can yell at himself.

00:27:36.053 --> 00:27:42.932
Yeah, because what happens is we discuss how much we're spending, we go over the gifts and then when I buy him, he's like did you see the credit card?

00:27:42.932 --> 00:27:44.721
There's thousands on the credit card.

00:27:44.721 --> 00:27:49.657
And I'm like I know, remember when we talked about getting those gifts and you said to put them on the credit card for points.

00:27:49.657 --> 00:27:51.343
And now you're mad.

00:27:51.343 --> 00:27:52.593
Yeah, so he bought the gift.

00:27:52.613 --> 00:27:53.414
So Tana's like how's it going?

00:27:53.414 --> 00:27:54.738
I'm like he's still yelling about the credit card.

00:27:54.738 --> 00:27:56.662
It's like he's it's like magic.

00:27:56.662 --> 00:28:02.180
He thinks that like, like, we'll be like okay, we're going on a trip, we're gonna buy flights, right.

00:28:02.180 --> 00:28:05.195
So I'm like do you want me to put it on our credit card, or do you want me to put it on?

00:28:05.195 --> 00:28:07.869
Like, we both have work credit cards, but it's not a work expense.

00:28:07.869 --> 00:28:09.494
He's like no, put it on the personal.

00:28:09.494 --> 00:28:13.452
And then the next day he'll be like did you see there's a thousand dollars on the credit card?

00:28:13.452 --> 00:28:17.800
Yeah, and I'm like yeah, remember last night when we said we're putting it's like it's the weirdest thing.

00:28:17.800 --> 00:28:19.423
Yeah, he's like it's a disconnect.

00:28:19.849 --> 00:28:21.355
So I'm getting yelled at about the credit card.

00:28:21.537 --> 00:28:21.938
So funny.

00:28:21.938 --> 00:28:30.659
But moms have so much to do, like they do the wrapping, they do the shopping, they do the setup the night before, and I just think there was a point to this.

00:28:30.950 --> 00:28:36.076
Oh, kyle, I don't remember the point the moms you said the moms have a lot of moms like Krista our friend was posting.

00:28:36.557 --> 00:28:41.184
She likes to do it by herself, to make it magical, and she appreciates that her mom does this or that.

00:28:43.411 --> 00:28:44.012
But I felt more so.

00:28:44.012 --> 00:28:49.079
Well, I do feel like I really want to make it magical and I want to get all the best gifts for the kids and I want to spoil them.

00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:59.023
And I do feel like when they're not reacting, the way that I'm like I want this, like reaction, and if I don't get it, I'm like mad.

00:28:59.023 --> 00:29:02.395
Yeah, and I think that is what happened.

00:29:02.395 --> 00:29:20.957
That was what led up to the fight of not feeling like the kids are grateful is because I think, behind the scenes, I was doing all the Christmas stuff and knowing what was coming, and we're doing this and we're doing that, and then my kids were just like, just acting like ungrateful and I'm like you don't even know what I'm doing for you you know, behind the scenes.

00:29:20.977 --> 00:29:27.238
But you can't do that like if I'm choosing to do that for myself, like I can't be mad at them, you know.

00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:29.442
I know I was mad.

00:29:29.442 --> 00:29:30.743
I forgot my.

00:29:30.743 --> 00:29:31.771
I had a whole point to this.

00:29:31.771 --> 00:29:32.914
That story doesn't make sense.

00:29:32.914 --> 00:29:34.278
I don't know, but we'll find it.

00:29:34.278 --> 00:29:38.598
Yeah, but I think that I am the gifts getting.

00:29:38.598 --> 00:29:40.452
There was a point the moms.

00:29:40.492 --> 00:29:41.255
You had kyle help.

00:29:41.255 --> 00:29:42.739
Yeah, I don't know when that happened.

00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:57.038
I don't know the point, but I think so it's funny, because your kids called my kids to tell them what they got, because we did it early, yes, and they were so excited to tell them what they got like they were thrilled with their christmas oh really, yeah, isn't that funny it.

00:29:57.058 --> 00:29:58.866
Yeah, it was like oh, this old thing and I'm all.

00:29:58.866 --> 00:29:59.470
That was $500.

00:29:59.809 --> 00:30:04.201
No because my kids are, all you know, like mad that they didn't get those things, yeah, but they didn't have Christmas yet.

00:30:04.201 --> 00:30:15.661
But the reaction coming this way was so excited, oh yeah, because it was like got the phone, Ken, got this and that, yeah.

00:30:15.661 --> 00:30:21.190
And then, like on Christmas Day it was the second, we got the Dyson hair wrap, yeah.

00:30:21.190 --> 00:30:24.421
Bear got the Oculus yeah, like they were jacked, yeah.

00:30:24.421 --> 00:30:26.718
So I saw the jackedness on this side.

00:30:26.817 --> 00:30:31.150
Oh yeah, because I was like oh well, I guess you know mom dishes out all this money for Christmas.

00:30:31.230 --> 00:30:34.252
Should I have gotten the Dyson hair wrap, but no, well, it was the shark.

00:30:34.252 --> 00:30:35.314
But same thing the same.

00:30:35.314 --> 00:30:41.779
But the funny thing is I don't think it's always those things, because maybe that's what my kids were missing was the magic of Christmas.

00:30:41.779 --> 00:30:45.423
Like we wrapped all the gifts ahead of time and I put them in bags.

00:30:45.423 --> 00:30:46.984
I don't wrap because it takes forever.

00:30:46.984 --> 00:30:48.707
Right, so you can buy Christmas bags.

00:30:48.707 --> 00:30:51.092
They're amazing and we reuse them.

00:30:51.092 --> 00:30:57.984
But we had them all set and the kids are like great mom, you know, like the bags are here.

00:30:57.984 --> 00:31:02.942
But now I'm thinking my kids Maddie's actually on Instagram now Hudson's on Snapchat.

00:31:02.942 --> 00:31:07.355
Maybe they're comparing to everyone else Because I'm like what are they mad at?

00:31:07.490 --> 00:31:15.713
We're doing the same things we always do, right right, that's maybe what was happening, probably, when you see it's like the FOMO, yeah Of like everyone else is doing.

00:31:15.733 --> 00:31:17.238
Better life, the Elf yeah.

00:31:17.258 --> 00:31:18.442
Because I was in trouble about the Elf.

00:31:18.609 --> 00:31:32.057
Well, I wasn't really on Instagram a lot during the like I would like post something at Disney on my story or something, but I wasn't like scrolling, yeah, and I feel like I was way more Present and I didn't feel like I missed anything.

00:31:32.178 --> 00:31:40.092
Yeah, you know I didn't feel as bad.

00:31:40.092 --> 00:31:50.135
When you don't see it, you don't care, but I think it's important to know everything, like what Tisha and I talked about a few weeks ago when you were talking about your trips and I was talking about my family movie night and we had the epiphany this episode hasn't aired yet that yours isn't as great as what it looks, right, and mine isn't as great as what it looks.

00:31:50.135 --> 00:31:59.255
I think we just have to remember it's not as great as what it looks.

00:31:59.255 --> 00:32:00.500
No like, even growing up my parents didn't have a lot of money.

00:32:00.500 --> 00:32:01.925
My mom listens now it's really funny because she didn't listen forever.

00:32:01.925 --> 00:32:02.327
So I get calls now.

00:32:02.347 --> 00:32:02.749
Why do you say that?

00:32:02.749 --> 00:32:05.076
I, you know, yeah, and I'm like no, but we didn't.

00:32:05.076 --> 00:32:07.790
But they did always get us what we wanted for Christmas.

00:32:07.790 --> 00:32:15.396
They probably totally charged it or did whatever, and I do remember that they really listened to what we wanted, right, and I think sometimes we don't.

00:32:15.396 --> 00:32:19.443
It's cute Like Kyle's family wants to do everything like their mom.

00:32:19.443 --> 00:32:26.667
They, like Bonnie would never know how much my mother-in-law she would never know how much they want to emulate their childhood.

00:32:26.688 --> 00:32:27.029
That's so cute.

00:32:27.109 --> 00:32:28.557
Yeah, I think it's the biggest compliment.

00:32:28.557 --> 00:32:31.512
Yeah, but she would never know like that.

00:32:31.512 --> 00:32:33.355
They really want to do everything like them.

00:32:33.355 --> 00:32:38.079
And I was just listening to someone else talk about their mom and I was like that mom has no idea.

00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:42.144
I got to remember it's one of our friends that their kids are trying to do everything like them.

00:32:42.144 --> 00:32:46.538
Yeah, that's so cute and I think sometimes you don't see that for years because I'm always like they don't get it.

00:32:46.538 --> 00:32:48.175
But I heard Maddie the other day.

00:32:48.175 --> 00:32:54.978
Oh, I was just telling you I got her a bunch of clothes and Maddie didn't ask for a lot, which I was really proud of.

00:32:55.519 --> 00:33:00.294
Hudson's Christmas list was no, she like had it in the car, she's all.

00:33:00.294 --> 00:33:03.903
Eh, you know, add, add, add, because her and Ken were comparing notes.

00:33:03.903 --> 00:33:04.971
Ken had one too, hudson's.

00:33:05.011 --> 00:33:07.175
Christmas list was long and we used that wish list.

00:33:07.175 --> 00:33:08.997
But what's annoying is we would claim it.

00:33:08.997 --> 00:33:10.556
So then they knew what we claimed.

00:33:10.556 --> 00:33:13.473
Oh no, so it was stupid Hudson's Christmas list.

00:33:13.473 --> 00:33:17.078
Hudson falls into my daughter, she's my middle daughter, my redhead daughter.

00:33:17.078 --> 00:33:25.477
She falls into the middle child, for sure, and she likes a sale, so she totally falls into this sale thing.

00:33:25.477 --> 00:33:25.576
On.

00:33:25.637 --> 00:33:25.999
Instagram.

00:33:26.299 --> 00:33:31.494
So does my daughter, so one day she was bugging me that her Christmas list was up 50% off and I let her order it.

00:33:31.494 --> 00:33:32.519
I was like just order it then.

00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:35.255
So she spent like $200 on her own Christmas list.

00:33:35.255 --> 00:33:36.798
So when it came in, I'm like what is this stuff?

00:33:36.798 --> 00:33:37.118
She's all.

00:33:37.118 --> 00:33:46.142
When she was opening it she's like I ordered these and I was like that's so bad, like that we let them order, but but anyways.

00:33:46.545 --> 00:33:51.771
So Maddie returned half of her stuff and I was so upset on Christmas that like, but I used to do the same thing to my mom.

00:33:51.771 --> 00:33:55.419
My mom still gets the like really great gifts, mom, she really does it.

00:33:55.419 --> 00:34:00.818
But so we had to go to the store and return it all and I had told Maddie like hey, you don't get ready all the time.

00:34:00.818 --> 00:34:04.441
Like I want you to have some good clothes, so when you want to get ready, you have them, you have them.

00:34:04.441 --> 00:34:07.913
And so the next day I thought oh, that was rude.

00:34:07.913 --> 00:34:13.000
I said that you know when you're feeling guilty, it's weird conversations.

00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:13.760
Yeah, that.

00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:15.461
Later I'm like, oh, maybe I shouldn't.

00:34:15.461 --> 00:34:16.362
She's still my daughter.

00:34:16.362 --> 00:34:19.106
Maybe I shouldn't have told her that, right, or maybe I shouldn't have said it like that.

00:34:19.106 --> 00:34:25.471
So at the store she's like mom, this vest.

00:34:25.471 --> 00:34:31.175
You said my style, so I know she's like listening to everything I say and I'm like, but at the same time, everything I say has so much um power.

00:34:31.175 --> 00:34:35.838
Yeah, wait Like, cause sometimes when you're upset, you'll say something like and I don't mean it.

00:34:35.878 --> 00:34:36.818
I'm feeling bad now, yeah.

00:34:36.878 --> 00:34:39.681
Yeah, you don't realize how much weight it has, you know.

00:34:39.681 --> 00:34:48.369
And when I was reading her text messages, I could hear her saying what I had told her and I'm like she to me would be like you're stupid, right?

00:34:48.369 --> 00:34:57.182
And then she'd go back and be like yeah, I think we should like, for instance, say I said you guys should all go to see Elf, and she's like well, that's stupid, nobody wants to go see Elf.

00:34:57.182 --> 00:34:59.855
And then I could see her in her text and be like does anyone want to go see Elf?

00:34:59.855 --> 00:35:01.155
That would be a fun Christmas thing.

00:35:01.155 --> 00:35:03.416
Yeah, so none of that happened.

00:35:03.416 --> 00:35:06.349
But she really does listen to what I say, even though she acts like I'm an idiot.

00:35:06.349 --> 00:35:07.490
I feel like both my older kids.

00:35:07.490 --> 00:35:13.458
I've seen text messages where they're listening and I they're listening.

00:35:13.498 --> 00:35:17.764
Now she's snap conversationing everything because it came out that I read all her text messages.

00:35:17.764 --> 00:35:18.965
So now I have no idea what's going on.

00:35:18.965 --> 00:35:20.596
Yeah, but I do trust her.

00:35:20.596 --> 00:35:26.472
She showed me in reading her text messages that I can trust her, so now I'm like trying to trust her more.

00:35:26.472 --> 00:35:28.820
Yeah, but anyways, christmas, the magic of Christmas.00:35:28.820 --> 00:35:32.253


Let's sum it up it was good.00:35:32.253 --> 00:35:32.914


I don't know.00:35:32.914 --> 00:35:39.664


I think we all put those Christmas pressures on ourselves, but we had a lot of family time, which I think will mean something later.00:35:39.664 --> 00:35:43.016


Yeah, you know all the things and my mother-in-law does a great job yeah.00:35:43.737 --> 00:36:01.059


Yeah, but I didn't do as great of a job with like I just if I didn't want to do it, I just didn't do it, yeah, which was very in the whole, just didn't care.00:36:01.059 --> 00:36:03.184


But Kyle got me Tommy John.00:36:03.184 --> 00:36:07.036


So Dr Laura always talks about Tommy John on her podcast.00:36:07.036 --> 00:36:08.320


It's pajamas.00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:16.251


It's like they're turning into like a Lulu, like they just rebranded and it was real sassy and I'm like I bet you Tommy John's gonna have an era like Aloe.00:36:16.251 --> 00:36:18.900


Sophia took me to Aloe a few years ago and I was like what's Aloe?00:36:18.900 --> 00:36:25.521


Yeah, and now it's like having its moment, right, and I feel like Tommy John's going to have the moment now, soon, because I can tell it's trending that way.00:36:25.949 --> 00:36:27.096


Oh my gosh, you guys got to get it.00:36:27.096 --> 00:36:43.673


It's the most comfortable pajamas Really and they're like cuter and they're expensive.00:36:43.673 --> 00:36:44.927


So I don't buy expensive things, but Kyle bought it for me, yeah, and it's the best thing Everybody needs to try.00:36:44.927 --> 00:36:45.692


Tommy John yeah, so amazing.00:36:45.692 --> 00:36:45.811


Yeah.00:36:45.811 --> 00:36:46.057


So Kyle got me that, I didn't, I got him.00:36:46.057 --> 00:36:46.443


So do you guys get each other gifts?00:36:46.443 --> 00:36:48.492


So we said not to because I didn't really want to buy anything, but he did.00:36:48.492 --> 00:36:58.545


I think he's a little like she's a little off her kilter Like I'm scared yeah, so he got me Tommy John's stuff and um, and it was really expensive but I ended up getting him.00:36:58.951 --> 00:36:59.291


It's funny.00:36:59.291 --> 00:37:17.275


I got him a drill that Lance said it's like a electric lug nut remover and this girl showed up at our house last night a little weird late at night with a flat tire that looked like someone cut a hole out and I was like, great, it's from the TikTok, they're here yeah, they're gonna get, they're gonna kill us yeah because of the trending TikTok.00:37:17.275 --> 00:37:20.282


But, um, kyle used it, but we still thought we were getting killed.00:37:20.282 --> 00:37:23.657


Kyle had his gun and he, like, locked the door while he's changing the tire.00:37:23.838 --> 00:37:25.269


And I was like this is where it ends.00:37:25.411 --> 00:37:27.213


Yeah, we watched the best show.00:37:27.213 --> 00:37:28.594


Oh my gosh, you don't like.00:37:28.594 --> 00:37:30.476


It's not very dark, it's more suspenseful.00:37:30.476 --> 00:37:33.981


It's called um oh my gosh, I forgot the name.00:37:33.981 --> 00:37:34.862


It's on amazon.00:37:34.862 --> 00:37:36.324


It's his last name.00:37:36.324 --> 00:37:37.585


I gotta look it up.00:37:37.585 --> 00:37:38.891


It's the best show.00:37:38.891 --> 00:37:48.510


The guy is like weirdly attractive, um, and he's like a cop and his wife dies and um, I gotta find the name.00:37:48.510 --> 00:37:52.931


And it's about him trying to find the killer and it's like a little killer, darkish I've never?00:37:53.170 --> 00:37:55.856


yeah, I would have never found it, is it it old?00:37:55.856 --> 00:37:57.039


No, it's newer.00:37:57.039 --> 00:37:59.043


Kaya his name is, I forget it.00:37:59.043 --> 00:38:03.675


I got to tell you guys, though, because it's a horrible story without it, but anyways, it's so good.00:38:03.675 --> 00:38:05.775


What else are we talking about?00:38:06.076 --> 00:38:06.838


Oh, the gifts.00:38:06.838 --> 00:38:10.914


Yeah, ben, we don't really do gifts but I like if I see something, I'll get it for him.00:38:10.914 --> 00:38:23.114


Person and I Jen, who I love we always dress similar and she always has the best style.00:38:23.114 --> 00:38:24.139


She had this really cute purse.00:38:24.139 --> 00:38:25.835


So I was like send me the purse.00:38:25.835 --> 00:38:32.719


Well, it was like kind of expensive, so it wasn't something I'd like buy myself, but I was like, oh, I would want this for Christmas.00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:35.076


So I sent it to Ben.00:38:35.076 --> 00:38:37.836


I never tell him I want something, ever.00:38:38.137 --> 00:38:38.759


Did he get it?00:38:38.759 --> 00:38:40.713


No and it drives me nuts.00:38:40.713 --> 00:38:45.972


I almost called him and told him like, because this has happened before Every time, what did he buy you?00:38:46.054 --> 00:38:46.594


Weird stuff?00:38:46.594 --> 00:38:47.516


No, nothing.00:38:47.516 --> 00:38:49.101


Oh, did you buy him stuff?00:38:49.101 --> 00:38:53.581


I got him a shirt, oh so, but it's like we didn't do gifts but I sent you the purse, but I sent you the purse.00:38:53.581 --> 00:38:57.684


So I clearly want the purse, and it's so annoying because I feel like I've sent him.00:38:57.684 --> 00:39:01.253


We've gone through so many things he's gotten me, I got to call him, I almost called him.00:39:01.253 --> 00:39:09.818


It's like I don't know, he's the most thoughtful person he is, but he misses that stuff but he misses the gifts, so I've never seen someone miss something more.00:39:17.989 --> 00:39:22.855


I've literally like given things on this list, use them for anniversaries, birthdays, doesn't ever access the list, so I don't even make it anymore, and then he'll buy weird things.00:39:22.855 --> 00:39:26.496


I don't want the weird things and he'll spend a lot of money on them.00:39:26.909 --> 00:39:28.356


And it's like I don't want that.00:39:28.536 --> 00:39:30.931


Yeah, I do that, and then he's mad when I don't like it.00:39:31.351 --> 00:39:34.353


He's like you're returning and I'm like, well, yeah, I didn't ask for that.00:39:34.393 --> 00:39:36.856


But, like all the 50 things I asked for, you didn't get.00:39:36.856 --> 00:39:38.757


It's the weirdest thing, okay so.00:39:39.077 --> 00:39:40.398


I'm Ben so.00:39:40.398 --> 00:39:45.722


Kyle will tell me exactly what he wants to, and I don't like buying it because I feel like there's nothing to it.00:39:45.722 --> 00:39:46.423


It's not thoughtful.00:39:46.423 --> 00:39:47.605


I just bought what you sent me.00:39:47.605 --> 00:39:50.606


But it's thoughtful to buy what I want.00:39:50.606 --> 00:39:53.431


So Kyle's family does the list.00:39:53.431 --> 00:39:54.333


The kids make a list.00:39:54.333 --> 00:39:55.655


They buy everything on their list.00:39:55.655 --> 00:39:59.884


Yes, kyle's family mom said she wants size 7 Nikes blue.00:39:59.884 --> 00:40:01.155


I'm like there's no fun in this.00:40:01.155 --> 00:40:04.190


Aren't we supposed to think of something she would like and get it for her?00:40:04.190 --> 00:40:04.891


Yeah, but then when?00:40:04.931 --> 00:40:06.195


she doesn't like it, it's just.00:40:06.195 --> 00:40:07.639


It misses the mark.00:40:08.431 --> 00:40:13.760


Oh see, I think the point is and Maddie had this, maddie's like mom, I usually like what you get, so just get me some things.00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:18.423


Well, now she wants to go buy a curling iron and we turned all the clothes and I'm like maybe that didn't work.00:40:18.423 --> 00:40:21.726


Just send me the list, cause Hudson, I just bought the list and then she was probably happy.00:40:21.726 --> 00:40:24.489


But for me, our family, we always like my sister-in-law, allie.00:40:24.489 --> 00:40:27.454


She buys things you never even knew you wanted and it's everything.00:40:27.454 --> 00:40:29.675


Yeah, like she's so creative with the.00:40:30.197 --> 00:40:36.844


So I think Ben just tries to like I don't think ever when I'm, like I didn't know I wanted this and I'm so excited for it.00:40:36.864 --> 00:40:37.865


Maybe very rare.00:40:37.865 --> 00:40:38.606


Yeah, Kyle too.00:40:38.606 --> 00:40:40.755


So now I just buy what Kyle sends.00:40:40.755 --> 00:40:41.358


He sent me shoes.00:40:41.358 --> 00:40:41.980


I ordered the shoes.00:40:42.110 --> 00:40:44.916


So I'm so annoyed because now I still want the dang purse.00:40:44.916 --> 00:40:45.739


Just order it yourself.00:40:45.739 --> 00:40:56.398


I know it's so annoying, but it's like I don't want the Tommy John that's what I mean Because they were expensive.00:40:56.579 --> 00:40:58.101


Yeah, guys, the show name is Cross.00:40:58.101 --> 00:40:59.983


Kyle just texted me Cross Cross.00:40:59.983 --> 00:41:01.664


It's so good, tyler, really so good.00:41:01.664 --> 00:41:03.286


Yeah, yeah, we watched it in a day.00:41:03.427 --> 00:41:04.914


But no, I love him to death.00:41:09.873 --> 00:41:14.217


He's literally the most thoughtful guy Like, and Kyle's like really good with holidays.00:41:14.217 --> 00:41:15.358


Yeah, Kyle is really good.00:41:15.358 --> 00:41:16.597


I'm always jealous of you.00:41:16.978 --> 00:41:18.920


You're always getting all these good holiday stuff.00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:20.740


Yeah, he's really good with like birthdays.00:41:20.740 --> 00:41:27.005


It's Mother's Day Sunday, Like I want handmade things from the kids, Like it's so what.00:41:27.005 --> 00:41:29.168


But then he makes my coffee every single day.00:41:29.168 --> 00:41:31.958


Yeah, when, like Kyle is never doing.00:41:31.958 --> 00:41:34.130


I just showed him this weekend about Like he gets my gas.00:41:34.130 --> 00:41:35.391


He fills my water bottle.00:41:35.391 --> 00:41:36.653


He filled my water bottle today.00:41:36.653 --> 00:41:38.275


Kyle is like you're on your own.00:41:38.275 --> 00:41:40.777


Yeah, everyday thoughtfulness and then gifts.00:41:40.777 --> 00:41:41.237


I'm all.00:41:41.237 --> 00:41:44.581


Huh, you know, I see on Instagram everyone had a great Mother's Day.00:41:44.621 --> 00:41:49.186


I'm all hmm, that's so funny because Kyle is the opposite, but he gets in trouble for Ben all the time.00:41:54.855 --> 00:42:04.233


I'm all if Tisha wants to do some convincing, some things you know, kyle doesn't care about that that much, probably because it's like a free for all at your house.00:42:04.896 --> 00:42:07.128


Legs up you know If I was like you'll get.00:42:07.592 --> 00:42:08.836


He's like I can get that anyways.00:42:08.836 --> 00:42:15.570


Oh, when we were in Houston, fox had a birthday and Ben wanted to drop him off.00:42:15.570 --> 00:42:16.833


I'm like you can't drop him off.00:42:16.833 --> 00:42:18.317


He's a kindergartner, like what?00:42:18.317 --> 00:42:20.931


If he has to poop he's gonna ask the mom at the birthday to wipe his butt.00:42:20.931 --> 00:42:23.400


Like kindergarten, the parents still go to the birthday.00:42:23.420 --> 00:42:31.152


You make friends I feel, like it's like third grade ish yeah, even second grade, first grade, even third, fourth, you can drop off no, you can't drop off in kinder.00:42:31.552 --> 00:42:34.418


So I'm like you know you have to go to the birthday.00:42:34.418 --> 00:42:36.041


And and he's like I am not going to this birthday.00:42:36.041 --> 00:42:38.105


And I was like, yeah, I'll make it worth your while you know.00:42:38.105 --> 00:42:40.137


So then he's like, okay, I'll go to the birthday.00:42:40.137 --> 00:42:46.159


And then at the birthday he's like this is awful, I'm never doing this again, unless you're offering really crazy stuff.00:42:47.710 --> 00:42:48.914


Did you make it worth his while?00:42:48.914 --> 00:42:55.134


I know he falls for it every time Like what is making it worth your while mean?00:42:56.215 --> 00:42:57.797


I don't know Like I don't know.00:42:57.976 --> 00:43:00.480


No, like really, Is it still Mishies?00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:04.103


No, so Tisha really likes Mishies.00:43:04.103 --> 00:43:06.025


The IES Does everyone know about?00:43:06.045 --> 00:43:07.407


the IES yeah, everyone knows Trust me.00:43:07.869 --> 00:43:12.918


Kara was re-listening to episode one to see where I offended someone and she's like we're on the IESs right now.00:43:23.070 --> 00:43:25.557


Like right now, like it's so old school, like we have new listeners, we gotta tell yeah, we told season one, first episode, so.00:43:25.557 --> 00:43:26.561


But tisha likes to stick with the same position.00:43:26.561 --> 00:43:27.063


Normally you've got true.00:43:27.063 --> 00:43:28.007


It's like why mess with the good thing if it's?00:43:28.027 --> 00:43:28.226


not broke.00:43:28.226 --> 00:43:30.817


Don't fix it, you know, but I feel like you're more adventurous these days.00:43:30.817 --> 00:43:36.038


No, so we're still mishies, so is making it worth your while like a position too?00:43:36.661 --> 00:43:43.721


it's like, yeah, maybe some other things oh, like the yes foreplay yes oh, but I thought you don't do that.00:43:43.721 --> 00:43:46.333


Well, that's what I was making it worth his while.00:43:46.333 --> 00:43:47.697


Oh, it's like a few minutes.00:43:47.697 --> 00:43:50.331


Sometimes we do the closet a lot, so that's.00:43:50.331 --> 00:43:53.900


My kids would die if they listen to this, yeah they're it's mom and dad.00:43:53.960 --> 00:43:54.809


Yeah, I think it's.00:43:54.809 --> 00:43:56.574


My mom was so healthy about sex.00:43:56.574 --> 00:43:58.077


She made it clear that they loved it.00:43:58.097 --> 00:43:58.960


No, they know we do it a lot.00:43:59.059 --> 00:44:01.172


Yeah, I think it's great and it's great to know.00:44:01.172 --> 00:44:03.438


I always want to know mom, did you do?00:44:03.438 --> 00:44:04.021


I'll ask her.00:44:04.021 --> 00:44:05.134


And she's like dad didn't like that.00:44:05.134 --> 00:44:11.541


Yeah, I'm like, oh okay, yeah, how'd you keep?00:44:11.561 --> 00:44:14.083


it, so just gonna what's the crazy?00:44:14.083 --> 00:44:16.804


So kyle doesn't care about that, because it's just like a normal tuesday.00:44:17.224 --> 00:44:22.045


Yeah, it's all like there's, there's the session, so how do you?00:44:22.547 --> 00:44:22.927


all the things.00:44:22.927 --> 00:44:25.288


How do you get him to do the things that you want?00:44:25.288 --> 00:44:26.588


That's why I'm having a hard time.00:44:26.588 --> 00:44:30.300


I know I'm like you need to dial it back so you have a little leverage.00:44:30.641 --> 00:44:34.512


Well, I like all the things so much leverage, oh like I wanted to go to new york.00:44:34.532 --> 00:44:39.324


So last Crystal canceled our annual ski trip last minute because her dad had passed away.00:44:39.324 --> 00:44:45.376


So she was going with her family and we didn't want to go skiing without them because I hate skiing so I'd be sitting by myself in the room.00:44:45.376 --> 00:44:47.838


So I was like let's go to New York and watch the ball drop.00:44:47.838 --> 00:44:50.318


And Ben was like no, I am not going there.00:44:50.318 --> 00:44:55.375


And I was like we can do it Press up against the glass, like overlooking the city.00:44:55.375 --> 00:44:57.476


And then he was like every night.00:44:57.476 --> 00:44:58.818


And I was like every night.00:44:58.818 --> 00:45:00.280


And so Did you do that?00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:03.722


We didn't do it, pressed up against the glass, but we did it every night.00:45:03.742 --> 00:45:05.784


Oh, pressed up against the glass is Kyle's favorite, I know.00:45:05.784 --> 00:45:08.688


See, that's happening, that's what I mean.00:45:17.510 --> 00:45:25.331


Like that's happening on a normal day, like like yeah of you and he's all huh, yeah, no, I'm never doing that ever yeah, it's got to be special, I know, but okay, maybe that's my problem because I can't use that.00:45:25.452 --> 00:45:30.722


He'd be like okay, yeah, you will yeah no, I use it all the time.00:45:30.802 --> 00:45:32.070


It's like my greatest power.00:45:32.070 --> 00:45:34.271


I know I don't like it, whatever I want.00:45:34.271 --> 00:45:36.393


If I told you that's why my girls, you don't get it.00:45:36.393 --> 00:45:37.454


You have so much power.00:45:37.454 --> 00:45:39.894


It's like, yeah, it wouldn't, even I can't.00:45:39.894 --> 00:45:40.896


I'll give whatever I want.00:45:40.896 --> 00:45:44.177


If I told you that's why I'm like girls, you don't get it.00:45:44.177 --> 00:45:46.159


You have so much power.00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:49.860


It's like, yeah, it wouldn't, even I can't even imagine You'd be like, okay, oh yeah, anything.00:45:49.900 --> 00:45:51.061


I'm like, hey, can you get this?00:45:51.061 --> 00:45:53.003


And he's like, okay, you know all the time.00:45:53.003 --> 00:45:54.923


All right, well, until next time.00:45:55.443 --> 00:45:56.184


Thanks for listening.00:45:56.804 --> 00:46:19.436


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